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From a raw number standpoint, yeah I see your point. I think Pittman would be thriving with a real QB and a pass centered offense. His game is really complete. I see your case and I see why you would feel that way, it’s just my opinion he’s higher. I was not on that train. Since he got here, he’s been worried about his catches. I didn’t like and still don’t like the signing.

Lamb is really over rated, he is horribly inconsistent. I’d take: Jefferson Pittman Higgins Lamb Davis Have got screwed over with the signing of Sanders. He should be the 2 on this team all the time. He’s been the best performer all year. Of course Diggs is getting his, but he’s had a sub par year vs what he did last year. Davis has BALLED OUT.

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They screwed up big time, like Brock Oswieler big. Their cap hit is $14M for next year, then $17M, 17M and 13M, FOR A RUNNING BACK, who hasn’t stayed healthy. if they trade him, the dead cap is 26M, so I really doubt this is the year they are going to do that. He’s relatively affordable at $8M in 2022 and only 1M is guaranteed in 2023, so that part is doable for another team, but if you keep him you are paying essentially $12M a year for him after next year.. tough sell. If he could stay healthy he’s worth it, but that’s a huge if.

This is why Josh’s deal was better than Maholmes’. He’ll get to re set the market again, Maholmes will likely never get to. Allen got paid almost as much AND gets to go again in his prime, Maholmes will be in the league for 13 years by the time he gets another shot at being a FA, not great.

Not sure you will get Patterson that cheap, or if he would want to give up what has essentially been a starting RB role to come here as a gadget guy, would love it if he would though. He’s been intriguing his whole career, happy to see him finally putting it together.

If anything, you want to give him a 5 year “extension”, you pay him a 30M signing bonus, this years salary gets reduced to 1 mill, the next goes to 5, next at 7, all guaranteed, then nothing guaranteed for years 4 and 5 of the deal, but the base can be crazy high, so he gets paid 43MM over 3 years, average of a 15.3M, but your cap hit is 7M, 11M, 13M, then you can restructure or post June 1 cut him and have 12 M dead cap, that can be spread over 2 years, or you work out his deal to be what it’s worth at that point. Kick the can down the road, but don’t leave yourself too much dead cap that you can’t get around it. Obviously, my numbers are hypothetical, but it’s the basic framework that matters.

Ya never know, I mean ya know, but who knows if the Covid bug sneaks up and bites any team, nothing is a given.

I don’t think you can dump ALL of your performers at once, but I would let Diggs contract play out. Beasley and Sanders can go this year. I’d have no problem seeing McKenzie or a similar player out there for Beasley and I think we are watching Davis proclaim the job HIS on the outside. He’s still not a bonafide #1 by any stretch, but he might be in a year with more looks and experience. If Diggs continues to perform, give him sizable deals with little guaranteed so you can move on if you want. He’s a small guy, I’m not going to risk the farm on him not getting hurt.

Yeah, I thought about that too, Sack record is in danger etc bc of the extra week. Overall, I don’t feel bad for the owners having to shell out some bonuses that wouldn’t have hit w out the extra week. They are going to take in a lot of cash for it, now they have to pay a little of it out, oh well. You wanted an extra game, now deal with it.

Both have 5th year options so nothing is going to change for this year, I’d roll the dice on Baker. If he shows up, sweet pay him, if not, bye. Jackson is the only QB likely to get big money even next year so why not let him play this year, the big dogs have been paid, let it roll, the market isn’t going to change much. The Bills played it a little safe, but might actually have signed Josh too early. You got him after what might be the best season he’ll ever have, might have gotten a better deal this year honestly. Doubt it matters much, but might have given another year of him under control.

You have a point, there’s going to be a tough road to a SB for anybody out of the AFC for a few years at least. KC, Buffalo,Tenn, Cincy all look to have a solid program that should be in the playoffs every year. Baltimore should be too, but they have been snake bit this year, still really impressive where they are given the circumstances. Then you have LAC, NE, possibly Miami, Indy who are all on the cusp of having it all together. So if he does in fact find a way to win one, he may be seen in a similar light as those guys. No doubt, that team should be way further ahead, they have done great given the situation. They don’t HAVE to pay Lamar this year though.

Yep, Cleveland is stuck in QB purgatory right now, you built too good of a team to fail hard enough to get a good pick, but you don’t have the guy that can get you over the hump. They are set up for years of 9-8, with the occasional glimmer of hope, maybe pulling off the 12 wins on a years when their NFC schedule is putrid and they will keep trying to find the one piece to get them over the hump. Meanwhile, Cincy has a core that’s going to destroy them for years. This is the problem with not having the right QB, we had it here for years, just good enough to never tank, never good enough to actually contend. Baker is (at least the current version of him) the equivalent of a slightly stronger armed Fitzpatrick. That’s to say, there are games where he’s great, but those costly mistakes when it comes to crunch time will kill you. Look at Fitz with the Jets, as front runners he’d bury you, but there’s not a QB in the league you would rather face than Fitz and Now Baker late in the game, when they had to make it happen. Jackson is essentially a modern Vick with less of an arm. I think he also puts you in purgatory, but he also gives you chances that nobody else can. I wouldn’t want him as my franchise, but once you have him, it’s next to impossible to let it go. I could see him finding lightning in a bottle and winning a SB, but I really doubt it. The D will have to be exceptional and the opponents will have to have the right weakness’s and a LOT will have to bounce their way for it to happen.

I think the whole QBR makes as much sense as Jackson over Allen for ProBowl. I understand there were 3 picks, but the number should account for drops too if it’s going to be reflective of the QB. If you go back and give Josh the passes his receivers flat out dropped while being hit in the hands his stat line is way different. You are looking at probably 250 yards, 2 TD passes and 3 ints. Of the ints, 1 I blame on his arm arrogance (see what I did there?), where he through the could just throw it through the defender at the line, 1 which he probably could/should have thrown away on the scramble and the other where Beas clearly wasn’t on the same page, I don’t know who to put them all on, but I credit him with 2 for sure. Now he also might not have had the day running the ball that he did because he could have trusted somebody to catch a damn ball, but he strapped up and won that game. That QBR stat is pure garbage. Side note, is Davis the only receiver on the team that actually catches the ball anymore? I’m cringing every time the ball goes anywhere but him. Diggs, drop in the hands MULTIPLE times this year, dude looks like a dome only player this season. Knox started off well and has lost it, Sanders has dropped a number of balls and Beasley just makes up his own mind on catching it or never putting his hands up, it’s crazy how bad the Receivers have regressed this year. I think they got full of themselves. I don’t know if Sanders has been a problem with it to, but there’s NO GRIT at all outside of Davis this year. Last year, they were junk yard dogs, they got their ass beat in the playoffs and have never been the same since. Hopefully, this year we see the opposite, they come into the playoffs to beat some ass and play the way we know they can.

That’s probably the best comparison out there really. Both really good at both facets of the game, Josh obviously a little bigger/stronger, but very similar skill sets.

Jackson will get a big contract, they just have to hope this isn’t the start of a lot of injury issues. Not saying I want him as my QB, just looking at the infatuation with the guy, I think he gets paid. I would let Baker play it out. He has steadily regressed, I’d risk it with him.. if he kills it, tag him and get a deal done, if not move on. If you can’t figure it out in 5 years, I’m not waiting anymore.

Dude is a missile in a straight line, rumor has it he’s been working with Moss on using his blockers, only good things can come of this.

He’s not a starting DT, only reason he has ever started was as an injury replacement. He’s been largely a non factor in the time he’s been in the league. Nobody is paying him big money, Bills included. He’s not a starting DT, only reason he has ever started was as an injury replacement. He’s been largely a non factor in the time he’s been in the league. Nobody is paying him big money, Bills included. He’s not a starting DT, only reason he has ever started was as an injury replacement. He’s been largely a non factor in the time he’s been in the league. Nobody is paying him big money, Bills included.

Yeah pretty much lol

Would LOVE to have him w the Bills next year as a McKenzie replacement or as an RB 2, always has had a ton of ability, seems to finally have found a legitimate spot on Offense now. Better than Smith ever was at the same type of role.

Literally not a single impact player on the list. Wouldn’t mind seeing Wallace, Zimmer, MT, McKenzie, back, but no real losses if any of them get offered any real deals. I like McKenzie, but apparently he’s not a favorite of McClappy.

Those guys actually got on the field AND produced. The guy has played in 43 Games in 4 years, and has a whopping 101 tackles, and a HALF of a sack. The guys that got paid were actually impactful. Outside of Buffalo fans, nobody thinks he’s a “good” player. His own coaches don’t want him on the field, hence he’s a back up and in a rotation. Nobody is paying him anything, he’s a fringe NFL player at this point in his career. If you honestly think he’s going to get paid, I’m beyond glad you aren’t in the front office.

If you can’t beat 2 teams w less combined wins than you have, the playoffs don’t matter.

The guy has never been healthy and been a moderately effective rotational player for about half a season. Shaq had a very productive year, generating sacks, the year before he hit FA. There’s absolutely no comparison, nobody is paying him big money. Might as well toss in 3rd rounders they intend to draft RBs with too. Really need the DEs to get to the QB, I actually think they do almost too well at edge containment, in that they never get inside the edge in the first place. At very least Groot gets to runners out there. Everyone else seems to miss them even as they are right there.

Whatever, he gets paid, Bills win, all is good.