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I think both parties are right here. Cook doesn’t want to risk injury and wants to be paid like a top back. The Bills want to keep a talented player, but on their terms. Both are right for their own interests. How does it end? That we shall see. I’d see if the Panthers are willing to trade for him, just to threaten 🤣

Yes, I don’t really care what they do with Keon, but they HAVE to get Kindcaid working that middle or it’s a complete waste of a 1st round pick and then some. I would love to see Kincaid break out as the go to weapon he’s supposed to be, kind of Whitten-esque, there’s still plenty of room for a true slot to work with him. For now, I see Moore getting more reps in the Shakir role and him moving more outside as Shakir returns. Moore and Shakir are very similar players, with more natural ability probably going to Moore. Shakir is an animal, so his spot is beyond secure, but there’s plenty of guys that can step into that role and be ok.

I hope they shelf him until it’s completely healed even if that means we don’t see him till week 3 or 4. I would rather him at 100% when it matters than 80% all year.

Understandable that he couldn’t out punt the “Punt God”, but I’d settle for “guy that can boot it over 45 yards”

I’m guessing it’s not the Keon can’t beat Josh to the parking lot, but he’s losing the foot race to get inside.

He’s been there, thick and thin. He’s 30 and they need him, no better time to throw down and demand to be paid. He’s an injury away from never seeing another big pay day. I support him 100% on this. The team is in a tough spot, they need him, they should pay him, but for how long at 30 years old? Did Ertz ever find a team?

That’s great, too bad he won’t see the field this year now due to missing TC and McD being afraid of young talent, but at least he has a shot to be inactive on game days now.

Spoken like someone from Ohio.

All reports say otherwise on his work ethic, so I don’t know where you get that.

I see what you did there. Well done. Jerry Hughes was so bad they took Kelvin Shepard for him and he turned into a stud here. I honestly think Elam still can do well. With what Dallas has gotten out of lesser talent at CB, I don’t know if he could have found a better place. I won’t be shocked to see him really take off.

I’m hoping we throw on of the youngest secondaries in the league on the field. There was a huge lack of talent last year and they have enough guys to replace all of those incumbents. I doubt they will bc McD is afraid to lose, not playing to win, so I expect more of the same.

I am saying the fans of both teams are biased towards their own guy. I agree Allen is the better passer, and I’ll stand on the soap box all day that Lamar is a far better long ball passer, he has touch that Allen simply does not. Allen misses a LOT of deep shots, so much so that that basically took it out of the playbook. That doesn’t mean he can’t throw a 35 yard dime into and impossible window from his back foot and a guy hanging in his waste, he absolutely can. But given a chance to throw the nice arching bomb to a spot down field for a WR to catch in stride, he’s not very good at all. He’s unquestionably the worst of the best QBs at it. He’s great, but touch is still not his best attribute. Lamar, for all his lesser abilities in the passing game throws a much better deep ball. I think you are confusing “big time throws” with deep ball. Not the same thing.

Both are great, Allen is the better passer, Jackson is maybe the best runner we have ever seen at QB and is a good passer at this point. The biggest difference is Allen is a finisher and Jackson hasn’t proved he can do it on the big stage. I’d take Allen all day, everyday, but some of that is simply bias. Both are HOF bound, both are game changers, both have had mediocre receiving and mediocre offensive coaches, both have carried their teams as far as one guy can. I’m happy as can be with Allen, but if the Bills had taken Jackson, 95% of the people here claiming Allen is clearly better, would be making the opposite claim if Jackson were a Bill. They impact the game in slightly different ways, but the stats don’t lie (too much), they are pretty even overall. Jackson gets more “easy” passes due to the scheme and the threat of him running past you if you don’t contain him. He’s also a more accurate deep ball passer and I don’t care who wants to argue that, just go watch him. When a guy is running open, Jackson puts it on them, Josh is not a great deep ball passer, even though he can probably throw the ball 75 yards falling backwards, his touch isn’t great.. actually it’s not even good. Allen is an absolute Brute FORCE, you can’t tackle the guy with anyone less than a lineman 1 on 1 and 99.9% of linemen can’t catch him. He gets a lot of short rushing TDs bc of this. His scramble game might be the best ever (Mahomes is stupid good too), he can make throws that only 1% of people to ever play in the NFL can make. Most importantly, with the game on the line, there’s nobody in the league I’d trade him for.

He’ll end up being paid like Dak, vastly over market and way too much guaranteed bc Jerruh thinks he’s getting a bargain and over pays literally everyone.

Actually… they really didn’t. Just over 4k in yards for JA is all you even have to look at to know the receiving wasn’t good.

So you would purpose trying to draft the franchise QB then waste a 1st round pick on a #1 WR rental so you have a proven guy? Sounds good, what could go wrong?

Nah, both great players, but Strahan was arguably the best at his position for a few years and Thurman was always behind Emmit , Sanders, etc.

He’s better of banging balls in the basement than banging bartenders, so I think he might just get his simulator.

It was a bad year for a guy of his capabilities, I have to believe it was mostly injury related, but some of it is just plain underperforming. I know if you aren’t 100% neither is your focus, so I’ll give him a pass, but watching that 4th down drop more is just painful. Kelce makes that play 99% of the time, maybe Kincaid does too and that’s the 1%. I don’t know for sure, but I know that was every bit as costly of a drop as Andrews’ in the end zone. After his rookie year, the bar was set pretty high and he rolled under it last season. Hopefully, he’s back healthy, the OC can recognize talent and he gets REAL targets. I’d like to see him and Shakir torture teams over the middle and open up things on the outside for Palmer and Coleman. I think we have the guys to run a very similar offense to the Patriots’ glory days, with an added dimension of JA17 taking off as he sees fit. Is Brady good enough to scheme that? We shall see.

Kinda like the Bills should have drafted one w the Diggs situation?

It’s like listening to Mike Tyson speak… the word you wanted there is “redemption”, Lamar. Do Raven fans eat crow or Raven? Is Carpaccio an option?

Isn’t it funny how the crowd in the stadium actually makes it more entertaining to watch? It’s the same game, same teams etc, yet somehow just having people that have nothing to do with the game being there, it’s way more entertaining. I don’t understand it, but it’s clearly true.

Close enough for me. I might have a few of them flip flopped, but the tiers look right.

I think the average fan forgets this. We are talking about world class athletes, in their prime physical condition, at their absolute dumbest time of their lives. They do not simply work out and study film all off season. Is there risk in basketball? Yep. However, I’d be far more concerned about 100 other activities I can think of off the top of my head.

Thats NOT this team. Thats not the schedule they get to play, etc. That was the definition of a fluke. McD does tend to get quite a bit from mediocre talent on D, I give him props. The issue is, that mediocre talent isn’t enough to get them over the hump when it matters. There’s not a single difference maker on the D at any position. The only one you can even argue for is Benford and though he’s really good, he’s no game breaker. For the D to be as good as it has been with so little real talent out there, McD has done a great job. McBeane? Well somebody needs to explain the lack of talent.. whiff after whiff on early defensive picks is just not helping. Thankfully they have gotten some late in the draft that have worked out.