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I’m betting Hyde is back there for every punt in the playoffs.

Interesting stat for sure. The obvious big factor is the rules make it so favorable to pass you have to. The other major note is the majority or good running teams are going to a RB by committee. Elliot barely broke 1k with the extra game, that’s mostly because Pollard took a lot of carries, from such a high paid back it’s nuts. Also, I can’t recall a year ever before there have been so many injuries to RBs. Henry would have had close to 2k, McCaffrey, all of Baltimore got hurt, most of the guys we are familiar with being on the list missed a bunch of games.

Ok, the list is debatable, I get that. I personally feel Herbert is too high and I would take JA over Murray any day, but I can’t argue Rodgers, Brady, Burrow, Maholmes, being above JA as of today. The case can be made for the other 2, but my bias says JA is better. Here’s the good part, we have the last guy on the list who you would feel good about as your QB right now (Russ is criminally low on here, even if he’s beat to hell this year) Carr is the next best option? Woof. To show how bad the QB situation around the league is, Jalen Hurts is 14, yeah that’s right, he is ranked better than over HALF the starters in the league.. yikes. For all the years spent wishing we had a QB that could even be debated as a top 10 QB, I’m not going to worry about one guy putting our guy at 7, especially given that 2 of the guys above him are two of the all time greats. It’s really nice to not have to debate if Tannehill would have been the upgrade we needed to squeak into the playoffs. Forget it, we have it really good. Josh has been up and down this year, but as it’s been pointed out, even his down days are better than most guy’s good days. His good days are absolutely unbeatable. I sure would like to see him even that out to be more like a Rodgers level, but let’s not forget he’s still very young and still earning the big boy stripes. The only QBs I have ever seen be so damn poised and polished at such a young age are Burrow and Maholmes. They haven’t been perfect either, and both faced much better competition their whole lives. As long as Josh keeps growing, he will be a first ballot HOF player, if he stops right where he is, he probably still will be. That’s a nice place to be. Wilson has been beat up this year, hard to hold an injury riddled season against a guy with such a great history.

I can see that argument, he reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald in that respect, but I will say he has not been targeted enough to have that type of impact. Maybe a more fair comparison would be an Eric Moulds type. The other thing you have to look at with his current production, who else on that team scares anyone? He gets ALL the best corners and help, the only other threat is a bruising running back. The Colts don’t throw a lot and don’t have/haven’t had a QB to really use him well. Jefferson is an animal, really showing himself to be a top WR from day one, hard to believe he fell that deep in the draft. Lamb is a physical freak, but I don’t see a great player, I see a Peerless Price. Cooper gets the #1s, and they are 4 WR deep with real talent, plus a dangerous run game, he’s not getting lock down corners thrown at him. Again, in space great, having to create separation from a real CB and make tough catches, he’s not special, at all. Higgins, we’ll he should be a Bill, but he’s in a situation where he’s not getting all the attention and has a borderline great QB throwing him the rock. He’s making the most of it. I don’t think he’s a number 1 either, but he’s a real good player. As long as he has a true 1 to play off of, he’s going to put up big numbers, make him THE guy and he will struggle. Davis, also gets the luxury of not being THE guy, but he’s a lot like Pittman in the respect of being a really good all around player. He has #1 traits, I’d like to see the Bills give him the full time starting job and let him play. I’m not saying he’s going to be an All-Pro, but the guy can be a 1000 yard, 8TD guy and that’s damn good.

He was playing the game, making sure he let the reporters know how elite Josh was from day one, he gets pissy when he’s not getting the ball, always has. He’s never been a true #1 and always wants the ball like he is one. Oh I agree Lamb is more physically gifted. I’ve been watching the Boys quite a bit this year and drafted Lamb to my Fantasy team, the fact is, he flat out goes brain dead a lot. He’s dynamic as it gets in space, but I think he’d be a bust without all the weapons around him to take pressure off.

He may well get the 2nd Half tomorrow, if Allen does his job, they will be up by 4 scores at half time.

From a raw number standpoint, yeah I see your point. I think Pittman would be thriving with a real QB and a pass centered offense. His game is really complete. I see your case and I see why you would feel that way, it’s just my opinion he’s higher. I was not on that train. Since he got here, he’s been worried about his catches. I didn’t like and still don’t like the signing.

Lamb is really over rated, he is horribly inconsistent. I’d take: Jefferson Pittman Higgins Lamb Davis Have got screwed over with the signing of Sanders. He should be the 2 on this team all the time. He’s been the best performer all year. Of course Diggs is getting his, but he’s had a sub par year vs what he did last year. Davis has BALLED OUT.

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They screwed up big time, like Brock Oswieler big. Their cap hit is $14M for next year, then $17M, 17M and 13M, FOR A RUNNING BACK, who hasn’t stayed healthy. if they trade him, the dead cap is 26M, so I really doubt this is the year they are going to do that. He’s relatively affordable at $8M in 2022 and only 1M is guaranteed in 2023, so that part is doable for another team, but if you keep him you are paying essentially $12M a year for him after next year.. tough sell. If he could stay healthy he’s worth it, but that’s a huge if.

This is why Josh’s deal was better than Maholmes’. He’ll get to re set the market again, Maholmes will likely never get to. Allen got paid almost as much AND gets to go again in his prime, Maholmes will be in the league for 13 years by the time he gets another shot at being a FA, not great.

Not sure you will get Patterson that cheap, or if he would want to give up what has essentially been a starting RB role to come here as a gadget guy, would love it if he would though. He’s been intriguing his whole career, happy to see him finally putting it together.

If anything, you want to give him a 5 year “extension”, you pay him a 30M signing bonus, this years salary gets reduced to 1 mill, the next goes to 5, next at 7, all guaranteed, then nothing guaranteed for years 4 and 5 of the deal, but the base can be crazy high, so he gets paid 43MM over 3 years, average of a 15.3M, but your cap hit is 7M, 11M, 13M, then you can restructure or post June 1 cut him and have 12 M dead cap, that can be spread over 2 years, or you work out his deal to be what it’s worth at that point. Kick the can down the road, but don’t leave yourself too much dead cap that you can’t get around it. Obviously, my numbers are hypothetical, but it’s the basic framework that matters.

Ya never know, I mean ya know, but who knows if the Covid bug sneaks up and bites any team, nothing is a given.

I don’t think you can dump ALL of your performers at once, but I would let Diggs contract play out. Beasley and Sanders can go this year. I’d have no problem seeing McKenzie or a similar player out there for Beasley and I think we are watching Davis proclaim the job HIS on the outside. He’s still not a bonafide #1 by any stretch, but he might be in a year with more looks and experience. If Diggs continues to perform, give him sizable deals with little guaranteed so you can move on if you want. He’s a small guy, I’m not going to risk the farm on him not getting hurt.

Yeah, I thought about that too, Sack record is in danger etc bc of the extra week. Overall, I don’t feel bad for the owners having to shell out some bonuses that wouldn’t have hit w out the extra week. They are going to take in a lot of cash for it, now they have to pay a little of it out, oh well. You wanted an extra game, now deal with it.

Both have 5th year options so nothing is going to change for this year, I’d roll the dice on Baker. If he shows up, sweet pay him, if not, bye. Jackson is the only QB likely to get big money even next year so why not let him play this year, the big dogs have been paid, let it roll, the market isn’t going to change much. The Bills played it a little safe, but might actually have signed Josh too early. You got him after what might be the best season he’ll ever have, might have gotten a better deal this year honestly. Doubt it matters much, but might have given another year of him under control.

You have a point, there’s going to be a tough road to a SB for anybody out of the AFC for a few years at least. KC, Buffalo,Tenn, Cincy all look to have a solid program that should be in the playoffs every year. Baltimore should be too, but they have been snake bit this year, still really impressive where they are given the circumstances. Then you have LAC, NE, possibly Miami, Indy who are all on the cusp of having it all together. So if he does in fact find a way to win one, he may be seen in a similar light as those guys. No doubt, that team should be way further ahead, they have done great given the situation. They don’t HAVE to pay Lamar this year though.

Yep, Cleveland is stuck in QB purgatory right now, you built too good of a team to fail hard enough to get a good pick, but you don’t have the guy that can get you over the hump. They are set up for years of 9-8, with the occasional glimmer of hope, maybe pulling off the 12 wins on a years when their NFC schedule is putrid and they will keep trying to find the one piece to get them over the hump. Meanwhile, Cincy has a core that’s going to destroy them for years. This is the problem with not having the right QB, we had it here for years, just good enough to never tank, never good enough to actually contend. Baker is (at least the current version of him) the equivalent of a slightly stronger armed Fitzpatrick. That’s to say, there are games where he’s great, but those costly mistakes when it comes to crunch time will kill you. Look at Fitz with the Jets, as front runners he’d bury you, but there’s not a QB in the league you would rather face than Fitz and Now Baker late in the game, when they had to make it happen. Jackson is essentially a modern Vick with less of an arm. I think he also puts you in purgatory, but he also gives you chances that nobody else can. I wouldn’t want him as my franchise, but once you have him, it’s next to impossible to let it go. I could see him finding lightning in a bottle and winning a SB, but I really doubt it. The D will have to be exceptional and the opponents will have to have the right weakness’s and a LOT will have to bounce their way for it to happen.

I think the whole QBR makes as much sense as Jackson over Allen for ProBowl. I understand there were 3 picks, but the number should account for drops too if it’s going to be reflective of the QB. If you go back and give Josh the passes his receivers flat out dropped while being hit in the hands his stat line is way different. You are looking at probably 250 yards, 2 TD passes and 3 ints. Of the ints, 1 I blame on his arm arrogance (see what I did there?), where he through the could just throw it through the defender at the line, 1 which he probably could/should have thrown away on the scramble and the other where Beas clearly wasn’t on the same page, I don’t know who to put them all on, but I credit him with 2 for sure. Now he also might not have had the day running the ball that he did because he could have trusted somebody to catch a damn ball, but he strapped up and won that game. That QBR stat is pure garbage. Side note, is Davis the only receiver on the team that actually catches the ball anymore? I’m cringing every time the ball goes anywhere but him. Diggs, drop in the hands MULTIPLE times this year, dude looks like a dome only player this season. Knox started off well and has lost it, Sanders has dropped a number of balls and Beasley just makes up his own mind on catching it or never putting his hands up, it’s crazy how bad the Receivers have regressed this year. I think they got full of themselves. I don’t know if Sanders has been a problem with it to, but there’s NO GRIT at all outside of Davis this year. Last year, they were junk yard dogs, they got their ass beat in the playoffs and have never been the same since. Hopefully, this year we see the opposite, they come into the playoffs to beat some ass and play the way we know they can.

That’s probably the best comparison out there really. Both really good at both facets of the game, Josh obviously a little bigger/stronger, but very similar skill sets.

Jackson will get a big contract, they just have to hope this isn’t the start of a lot of injury issues. Not saying I want him as my QB, just looking at the infatuation with the guy, I think he gets paid. I would let Baker play it out. He has steadily regressed, I’d risk it with him.. if he kills it, tag him and get a deal done, if not move on. If you can’t figure it out in 5 years, I’m not waiting anymore.

Dude is a missile in a straight line, rumor has it he’s been working with Moss on using his blockers, only good things can come of this.

He’s not a starting DT, only reason he has ever started was as an injury replacement. He’s been largely a non factor in the time he’s been in the league. Nobody is paying him big money, Bills included. He’s not a starting DT, only reason he has ever started was as an injury replacement. He’s been largely a non factor in the time he’s been in the league. Nobody is paying him big money, Bills included. He’s not a starting DT, only reason he has ever started was as an injury replacement. He’s been largely a non factor in the time he’s been in the league. Nobody is paying him big money, Bills included.

Yeah pretty much lol