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Jesus, if he only got 4M per and we let him walk, I don’t get it.

Not a bad move, you know what you are getting which isn’t bad, just isn’t great. Safer than leaving Jones on an island again.

I agree with you on everything. People here want to act like Beane has never missed and every play, no matter how bad, is just somebody not recognizing their talent, because Beane picked them. It’s insane. I think he’s had some massive whiffs and they seemed pretty obvious even in the moment. The big thing though, they identified Allen and made it happen. That single move pretty much solidifies the team. Can’t take that away, they really defied a lot of doubters and went for it. If it weren’t for Allen, we would be talking about a new regime right now. I don’t think that’s a stretch at all. No Allen and I don’t think they would have gone after Diggs (though it could easily be argued that Jefferson turned out to be the better value there), aside from that the track record is pretty sketchy at best. I like Knox, but he is still a work in progress. I think it’s pretty fair to say that every first and second round pick aside from Allen, has not played up to their draft position. I know the Oliver fan boys will say that’s wrong, but there’s nothing about his play that says Top 10 pick. So overall, I think Beane has to be given credit for Allen, Diggs, Knox, Wallace and Brown was a really nice pick. Allen is the crown jewel, outside of that, his drafting has been pretty average or worse. He’s really yet to hit on a FA win, I suppose one could argue Williams was a good one, but there’s been a lot more misses than hits there. His first draft, because of Allen is a winner, the rest? Meh. He’s put a team on the field that’s pretty starved of star level talent, but McD has gotten a lot out of it. As a tandem, they have done well. Would it be enough to beat the prime Patriots? I don’t think so. Maybe last year, but that’s debatable.

Actually seems like a really good spot for him. He’s a pretty good C, he wasn’t going to stay there long term for the Bills, but he instantly becomes a mauler vs most C’s in the league.

Shhh, Beane is never wrong. Despite the fact he has swung and missed A LOT in his time here. The DEs are a little young to judge, but based on history it’s hard to just trust they are going to work out. I do think Groot has extremely high potential, I’m actually pretty thrilled with getting him last year. Basham was a bad pick, Humphrey should have been the pick. He would have eliminated the need for Morse or stayed at G and clogged that hole. Basham is a rotational DE who barely got in the rotation. In hindsight, AJ was a bad pick too. I wanted Dobbins bad, so I never cared for the pick and his production isn’t changing that.

Despite the fact he came up with the Titans and only played for Carolina last yearDespite the fact he came up with the Titans and only played for Carolina last year

Stupid money for that production, good for him.

I can’t see Gronk chasing money. He’s got other options to make money outside of playing for a crap team.

Wow, that’s insane. Guy has never been close to a #1 and getting that money.. Jags needed talent and they need to pay for it because they suck, but good lord.

I suppose the truth is he sucked at T and was ok at G, so with Brown taking the T spot and Saffold coming in at G (presuming he plays RG), this was no shock.

Guy is an animal, probably going to a 34 team though. Would love him here as a hybrid DE, he’s bigger than Hughes, not sure if he would go for it or not, but he’s going to get paid big by somebody.

Come on big money!

He absolutely should be, if you can land him for a few mill more than Edmunds and ship the weak link out, it would be foolish not to.

I figured we would see more, but I tend to think it’s going to be more action around the opening bell. If they can get Wagner, Jones, etc to commit they will trade Edmunds, cut Beasley, and restructure as needed.

Good for him.

At best this is your 3rd WR, most likely 4th or 5th, this signing stops you from doing absolutely nothing.

Looks like McD’s job is on the line, Beane choosing McKenzie over him.

Dak is FAR better.

Yeah, I’d swap 1st round picks with the Panthers for McCaffrey, seems like a fair deal to take that contract.

Ugggh

I wouldn’t be thrilled to dump him after spending a 2nd on him, but at least it’s a safe out in the contract.

That contract is fine for year 1, but gets pretty ugly for a guy who’s been struggling to stay on the field for the next 2 years. I would love him here, but I see why he went “cheap”.

Short term, low guarantees and incentives to reach, gives the player a chance to show up big and earn another longer deal. Personally, I’d do 2 years so if he does ball out for his incentives, I get to keep him for another year he’ll be chasing a contract. Let’s not pretend he was ever great here, just started showing some success in his last year when teams were having to pay attention to the center of the line getting blown up by Phillips. 6.5 sacks is nothing to write home about. I’d do something like; Year 1: 1.8M base, 200k bonus at 40% of defensive snaps, 300k at 7 sacks, 500k for pro bowl, 2M for All Pro (HA!). Year 2 voidable at 9 sacks. Year 2: total salary = year 1 salary plus bonuses total, same bonus structure again.

I would like him on a prove it deal, no guarantees but a ton of incentive money. He seems like he has a bad case of the “play when I want money”.

You have got to be kidding with that non-sense. 4800+ yards, 33 TD and 7 INT, 112 rating and 70% completion. Guy had a career year without Hopkins in virtually every category and did it with next to nothing talent wise. Yes they were constantly throwing because they were behind a lot, but the guy balled out. Get real.