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No way you tag him, the basis of his extension is then directly tied to the 14M number. What’s the best bargain you are going to drive? Hey JP, take 2 years for 18M and we won’t “force” you to take $14.4 M guaranteed this year.. riiight.

Always find it humorous when people see 3 guys who can’t separate themselves from one another, who end up starting because of injury and inept roster management, and think we now have 3 starters. This goes right back to the old Parcells’ saying “if you have two, you don’t have one.” Or in this case, if you have 3, you should pray they don’t all get exposed in the same game. As of today, you MIGHT be able to pull a 3rd for Elam, a 5th for Benford and a 6th for Jackson. Obviously Elam is off the table, Benford has more value as a possible starting S for you and Jackson is decent cheap depth. At some point, you can hope one turns into a Levi Wallace type and gets a decent FA offer and gives you a shot at a comp pick. He got on the field and proved you didn’t really want him there.

This is the guy they wanted when they took Bernard or whatever that wasted 3rd round pick was called from last year.

We saw 1 punt that would go down as the longest in the NFL this year.. yep, that’s an indication of talent, not to mention all the bombs he cut loose in college. How have we NOT seen talent? You’re flat out trolling.

All things considered, I’d have him back in camp this year. He’s talented, that we have seen. The case is going no where, he’s not being charged criminally. He hooked up w a girl who lied. In California, shockingly, they have protection against the accused if the plaintiff mis-leads them. I don’t see anybody losing sleep over a guy who got caught doing the same thing at least half the team has or would have done in the same spot.

There’s nothing to sue the Bills or the NFL for, you are full of crap.

No brainer for the Giants, even as a 5th WR, vet min money is always a win.

These drafts yielded next to nothing. You are bragging on a kicker, a couple back ups, a #3 WR and a borderline starter. The Chiefs found more in the last draft alone than we have in the last 3 combined.

The only thing I’d like to hear from Smith is if that last play was holding or not, he is the expert.

What ya did there is called “grasping at straws” for future reference. And Beane will be focused on drafting one, no doubt.

White, Milano and Dawkins are not Beane picks. He has hit on Josh. Nothing else.

I definitely want to clear Ed from the cap, he’s not worth what they are paying. If they are going to continue this stupid rotation, no DL is ever going to justify big money. I hear what you are saying on Davis, but he’s a decent player on a cheap deal, as much as I’d like an upgrade at WR, I don’t really want Diggs and Shakir as the only guys who know the system coming to camp next year. I’ll let it ride with him, worst case, you slap a transition tag on him next year.

You’re dreaming if you think Ed is bringing back a 4th. Why would another team give up a 4th round pick for a non-impact player, getting 11M for one year? There’s absolutely no chance. A third for Gabe? Maybe, but I think you have to keep him and try to push him down the depth chart. He’s not “bad”, he’s just not great. If he doesn’t blow up in 2023, you let him walk.

The Modern Marvin Lewis is your problem.

Are you crazy, I’ve been told repeatedly, Oliver is a top 5 player at his position.

How they handle this off-season will tell you everything you need to know about their plans. If they sign Edmunds to a big deal and bring more scrubs in on the OL, Josh might as well start asking for a trade. No, my daughter was there being loud and I didn’t think about beating her for it, not even once.

Same, I’m even losing it over the Bills. For me the whole thing is starting to wreak of a soap opera. SO much virtue signaling, idiotic cometary, blatant steering of games through the officials, etc. It’s harder and harder to GAF every year.

Get it done Beane?

Make Knox do it and be done with this BS idea.

Reid was an offensive coach before offense took over the league, he’s now running the most potent/consistent O in the league and winning Championships. McD is a Defensive coach in an offensive era. What the OP said is spot on.

Jacobs has always gotten that. He deferred his signing bonus until the team got to Nevada so he didn’t get crushed by California taxes. The guy is smart.

You NAILED it, He’s an elite talent at a premier position that’s had injury issues. He looked to be on his way to a monster career out of the gate and injuries have slowed him since. He’s going to get paid big in year 5 either on a prove it deal or as a massive long term deal. You roll the dice on a big time player at a premium position. I got all the hate from the homers earlier in the thread for saying the Bills did not use their 5 year options well. The reason they didn’t is simple, neither Oliver nor Edmunds plays a premium position and neither has ever flashed greatness for more than a game at a time. Those same haters all thought Gabe Davis was the next Megatron off of one game. There’s a real world a Bills fan perception I guess.

2 things. Why would anybody trade for the production of Oliver and that contract? Maybe a 6th rounder at best for a desperate team. You will be lucky to find any takers on a one year rental of a guy who has been consistently inconsistent. And 2, this staff has been atrocious at identifying/developing talent on either line. AJE won at Iowa by over powering sub par competition. His combine showed a guy without the burst, bend and general athleticism to be an edge rusher in the NFL, so what do we do, try to make a square peg fit a round hole. I don’t think you have to worry about him becoming much more than he is. He’s barely been on the field.

From the team that traded for Wentz, I can’t say I’m surprised. They are idiots to not pick it up, he’s the type of guy you WANT to use it on. You get another year with him on a lower salary, once he hits the market you are paying 20+ and a massive signing bonus. Yeah he’s been injured, but when he’s on the field he’s been really good. Guys like Oliver and Edmunds are the worst types to use it on, if a guy hasn’t emerged by year 3, you don’t exercise the option, that’s when you play the game of a franchise tag if they finally blow up or take them at a lower price for longer term if they are staying as a “solid starter” type.

Championship