CincyBillsFan

#18 is having a bad game.

And that's why they invented the fair catch Ray Ray!

Great QB play so far.

That was real close to being a TD. The DB lunges and barely takes out Gabes legs.

Yep. This is a case where the average value is a deeply misleading number. I like the stat that looks at the number of teams with a winning record that you played and beat.

I'm talking about the one they missed a couple of plays earlier where they just called an illegal contact on the guy covering Metcalf. Seattle got the 1st down on that play. Wilson did not get outside the tackles as he was peddling backwards and his pass was 5 yards short of the LOS.

Wow the refs are trying real hard to make up for missing that intentional grounding by Wilson. Or they're just incompetent.

That's my point. Some posters were acting like saying the Bills could go on a deep playoff run was crazy. Well it's no more crazy then saying after 11 games last year that the Titans would be going on a deep run.

Now the announcers are ball licking the officials. I think I'm going to puke.

How was that not grounding on Wilson? He was between the tackles about to be sacked and the ball didn't get back to the LOS. Instead the refs call a rink dink illegal contact?At minimum that should have been canceling penalties. I'm close to giving up on the NFL. This league is incompetently officiated. The minute the Bills slide back into irrelevance I'm out of here. High School & College football is better anyway. Now they throw a makeup flag. What the hell?

The Bills making a deep playoff run this year is no less likely than thinking that Tennessee would make a deep playoff run at this time last season.

As an out of conference game this is also the least important game that we play over the next 5 weeks. If I had to pick just one loss for the rest of the season this is the one I would pick. Sure I hope we go 5 - 0 but I would be thrilled to go 4 - 1. My guess is that SF sees it this way to.

What the hell are you talking about? We won the game by 10 freaking points? Is this how it will be with you wrong Joshers? The first time we don't see Allen light up the stat sheet you're going to say "it wasn't good enough at the end"? At least wait until we lose to make such a lame point. I really can't wrap my head around this statement Penfield45.

This is a great point. For some reason a lot of Bills fans, including their beat writers, call every Allen INT a "bad decision". You know sometimes the DB makes a great play or the D-line gets serious pressure as the QB is releasing the ball or the WR doesn't do what the QB expected. But in Buffalo none of this matters. Allen's INT's always seem to get described as "bad decisions". What I saw on that play was that Diggs was breaking open. If Allen had placed the ball higher there's a good chance that Diggs plucks it out of the air for a nice completion. Instead as Allen is following threw on his throw a defender hit his arm impacting the throw. That pick may have been a great decision by Allen throwing to a WR that ran a great route but ended up as an INT because of a great play by a D-lineman.

If the DB turns around that would have likely been a TD pass to Diggs. The DB interfered for a reason.

We had two very successful deep balls today. The first drew an interference call and set us up in a 1st & goal. The second went for 47 yards.

I disagree on Allen. He was having a brutally efficient game in piloting the Bills to a 24 - 6 lead half way through the 3rd quarter. He was completing 75% of his passes had one TD pass and one TD run. And hadn't made a mistake. On their first TD drive Allen's well placed deep ball drew a PI that set up the Bills at 1st & goal. At this point Allen was playing at an A level. Then Singleterry loses that fumble and the bottom drops out on Allen for the next two series with a careless INT and fumble. But for most of the game Allen played very well. The Bills approached this game differently and it was working until all the weird stuff happened in the 4th quarter.

He had three runs in the 2nd half that make me think he's 100%. All three showed him at his fastest on the run.

The total lack of production from our TE group is what kills us here. Today at least the RB's showed signs they could be solid down the stretch but the TE's combined for 2 catches for 5 yards. Typically TE's combine for 60 - 70 yards for their teams. This is a real problem with Brown out. I'm not sure they can fix it until the off season.

My three goals for the Bills this season were: 1) See Allen continue to improve which he clearly has. He is our franchise QB unless one of the "we should have drafted Mahomes" sad sacks on 2BD makes a time machine and we go back to the 2017 draft and convince the Bills NOT to make that trade with KC. 2) Win the Division which we are positioned to do. 3) Win at least one playoff game. This team is clearly good enough to win a playoff game.

I second that. The Bills led 17 - 6 after a solid workmanlike first half. Then the Bills looked like a division winning playoff team when they came out of the locker room and had a nice 6 minute TD drive to go up 24 - 6. At this point you had to be ecstatic at the Bills solid performance against a solid team. Then the weird stuff started happening. It began with a cheap unsportsmanlike penalty on Allen after his TD run. Then the D faces two 4th downs and allows LA to convert both. Stop the Chargers at midfield on the 4th & 2 and the game is over. Then we had a nightmarish 4th quarter. Leading 24 - 14 Singleterry rips off back to back 10 yard runs only to lose a bad fumble. After throwing a beautiful deep ball to Gabe giving the Bills a 1st down at the LA 22 leading by 7, Allen fumbles the snap and instead of just falling on the ball tries to recreate the Dallas game. A huge run by Moss is mostly eliminated by a 2nd chicken sh## sportsman like penalty. This time on Moss. Allen throws a bad INT. Allen rips off a 17 yard run for a first down that puts us at the LA 12 lard line. The play is called back after a very questionable holding call on Dawkins. Truth be told is we should have blown them out in the 4th quarter. The reality is that we led them by 11 and then by18 and for most of the 4th quarter by 10. This wasn't really a close game accept in our minds as we still remembered how we lost that Arizona game at the end.

That was the game where the Bills were first starting to display the power of their no-huddle offense. They got up on the Eagles 24 - 0 in the 1st quarter which back then was unheard off. The Bills almost lost the game because they didn't stick with the no-huddle the whole game. They won 30 - 23.

For which season are you asking the question? Back in the Ron Jaworski years or more recently?

I think there is a real advantage to forcing the LA defense to prepare for either Morse or Mongo at center. Not as much as prepping for different QB's but I suspect there's some subtle things we fans aren't aware of that make this a bit of a headache for the Chargers. In the end if Morse is truly ready to go then he and Mongo on the field at the same time seems like the best option for the Bills O-line.

Fair points about tanking but I disagree about the value experts bring to the decision. Consider Mahomes, how many experts were saying he was a can't miss prospect? Very few. Reid saw something that most of the experts didn't see. Or even closer to home what were the "experts" saying about Allen? Or Darnold? Or Mayfield? My concern with tanking is it puts a stain on a franchise that is forever. If Lawrence were the next Mahomes it would be worth it. I just question the certitude with which so many people are claiming that Lawrence is a can't miss prospect. My 50 years of following the NFL have taught me there is no such thing.