CincyBillsFan

Did you forget 13 seconds?

I bet when Brady watched a replay of that great Allen pass that Diggs had wrestled away at the Jacksonville 5 yard line for an INT he decided that enough was enough and the Bills had to get at least one WR that could go up and win those types of balls.

Not to mention that they lost a lot on defense. Can OBJ play on the D line or at LB?

If the picks of Worthy & Coleman were flipped (Bills get Worthy & Chiefs get Coleman) my overriding concern would be that we didn't land a BIG WR in the draft who could go up and turn 50/50 balls into 80/20 balls. I would be furious that Bean & McD went for the flash of the midget speedster while ignoring the higher upside of the big bodied freak WR.

Yep, that sounds right. If Bishop was gone Bean would have traded down. In the video Bean acted like he won the lottery when he got Bishop. There was no way with Bishop on the board he trades down.

I live in Cincinnati and Joe Burrow literally spent months publicly advocating for the Bengal's to draft Chase. How did that work out for the Bengals.

Did you catch the video of Bean & Pegula when they picked Bishop? You could see how relieved Bean was that he didn't have to trade up to land the guy. And Pegula's reaction told me that they had talked to him about how much they wanted Bishop. And this reminded me of the stress and gamesmanship a good GM like Bean has to do on draft day. They badly wanted Coleman & Bishop but Bean squeezed everything he could out of the picks and still landed his guys. Had Bean taken Coleman at 28 we would not have gotten that 3rd round pick from KC and had he feared losing Bishop and had traded our 4th round pick to move up maybe we don't get the running back. By taking a couple of chances Bean likley landed two additional starters or key subs in addition to landing the 2 players they wanted.

Samuel was a great pick up. Very productive in Washington given the circumstances of that offense and QBing.

We would not have gotten the D Tackle we picked with the 4th round selection. So we would have had to trade away picks to move up into the 3rd round to get him. We can never know for sure whether Worthy would have fallen or not but the only team between the 28th & 32nd pick to take a WR was SF and the guy they picked was a very different WR then Worthy. My guess is that the Chiefs really wanted Worthy and did not want to take the chance of someone moving ahead of him to steal him. But they probably would have made the trade even if the chances Worthy didn't fall to them was 1 in 10. Everything I've heard since the pick is that we got the guy we wanted and the trade allowed us to land a DT who will likley be part of the D line rotation right from the start of the season.

I think we did enough for the offense that Brady intends to run in Buffalo. And I agree with you that we are likely to sign another vet WR if the price is right.

First off we didn't just "hand him" to the Chiefs. They paid a steep price for a guy that almost certainly would have fallen to them at the end of the 1st round. And if that DT we took with the 3rd round pick we got from KC is a solid piece of the Bills D line rotation then we robbed the Chiefs blind. And who cares if the rest of the NFL is laughing at us. Let them laugh. I'll tell you what is really funny, calling Worthy "Tyreek Hill 2.0"! I mean come on man, the odds that Worthy is even half as good as Hill are remote. I don't think they would have. The differences in body type and style between Worthy & Coleman are to great to think that they would have taken Worthy over Coleman at 28. The Bills took the biggest late round 1 early round 2 WR on the board. They clearly valued size over speed here. And that fits the offense that Brady seems to be building.

So next season the Bills have TWO 2nd round and TWO 4th round picks. Not to shabby. Why use a 5th round pick for a guy that will be there in the 6th or 7th round or can be signed as a free agent? This is a great move by Bean.

After reading a bunch of reviews of Coleman & watching highlights I am loving this pick. First is the simple fact that the guy is a very big WR. This is more important to the Bills then straight speed. We haven't had a big WR for years. Second Coleman is still young and so has the potential to get a lot better. Third, the reviews were mostly positive: 2 A's, 4 B's and 1 C-. Fourth, the guy is a TD machine.

It should cost both McD & Bean their jobs if this comes back and bites the Bills in the butt. As others have noted they must not have liked Worthy and KC loved him. Now to be fair the Chiefs have not exactly been great at drafting WR's the last few seasons.

Not if it costs us our 2nd round pick and we don't have a 3rd round pick.

That's my fear to. But the first 13 picks have been offensive players. It's clear where the entire NFL thinks the priority should be. To take a defensive player in the face of this and after you traded away your best WR would be a risky move by McD/Bean - a very risky move.

Lance Alworth comes to mind. I would be very happy with McConkey. I suspect we'll pass on him if he's still available and then deeply regret that we didn't take him.

Referring to Lamar Jackson and the playoffs kind of destroys your whole point. For a guy with 2 MVP's and whose team twice secured the #1 seed Jackson has been remarkably bad in he playoffs. Jackson & Allen do not exist on the same field when looking at playoff football.

Agree. At the end when Diggs ripped into Allen for all to see he was clearly dispirited at how the game had went. The idea that it was Allen alone who was flat for the game is simply absurd. The Bills defense allowed the Bengals to easily drive 75 yards for TD's on their first two possessions. That set the tone for the game - the Bengals came to play and the Bills were in la la land.

And they would need to throw in a roof for the new stadium. No and I still don't think he's as good as Allen.

These two points are so wrong for so many reasons. 1) The idea that Diggs was the only guy on the team that wanted to win is ridiculous on its face. Sure, Diggs worked hard to project the image of the only one who cared but IMO he was posturing most of that time. I think back to his standing there in Arrowhead Stadium watching the Chiefs celebrate their conference championship win. Talk about a posed Kodak picture moment. And the idea that Allen doesn't care about winning is based on what exactly? Your perception that in the first couple of months after the season ends the guy actually lives his life? I don't know where this came from but its a meritless smear IMO. 2) And to say that the reason Allen hasn't won a Super Bowl yet is because he doesn't "put the mental work in" is flat out crazy talk. So you think if Allen had spent the off season studying how not to let your Special Teams and Defense blow a 3 point lead with only 13 seconds left would have helped? Because I'm wondering what more then leading the Bills on TWO late 4th quarter TD drives could a more mentally prepared Allen have done in that game.

I think these people wanted Allen to hold passing drills at his house in March with the WR's including Diggs & Davis.

Wait, you don't get off this easy. Isn't the point of you guys complaining Allen isn't devoted to football 24/7 in the off season based on your belief that Mahommes is all about football all the time and that he stays in great shape. Choose one or the other.

No. We aren't slackers. We're here on 2BD posting away. We take the off season seriously not like Allen.

I can't fathom why you would post this drivel? You think Allen would rather have had the TD then the easy FG try? Wow, high level football insight there.