CincyBillsFan

Again I have no idea what you're talking about here. My reaction to Dunn's article was that some of his observations line up with my own and provide additional perspective on issues facing he Bills. Nothing more and nothing less. It seems you have a problem with Dunn, fine. But it's beyond presumptuous to lecture those of us who agree with some of what Dunn says that our agreement is indicative of some greater political failings. Can you be more specific? Because feeble minded or not Dunn has identified and called out some problems with the Bills that line up with what a lot of discerning Bills fans had already noticed. For example Dunn makes a case that McD doesn't understand Allen or what makes an elite QB tick. And after McD's public comments and what we saw from Allen over the first half of the season this observation seems spot on to me. Dunn offers a plausible explanation for why McD/Bean have not surrounded Allen with the best possible offensive talent.

But even in the Jet's game Allen drove us to a tie with a last second FG in regulation. Then our special teams happened.

Seriously, because some of us think that Dunn lays out some of the issues with McD that will keep the Bills from getting over the hump you can predict our politics? And where in providing Dunns perceptive on things are people showing that "facts don't matter"? Like I've said before I didn't even know who Dunn was before I read these two articles. And yes I can clearly see that he has an issue with McD. But I also can see that some of what he's putting out there rings true to me based on my observations of the Bills over the last 5 seasons.

It's a Bills message board so I don't feel there is a requirement to praise Mahomes every time I discuss him. The bigger question to me is why do so many Bills fans on 2BD nitpick Allen finding fault with so much that he does. But for the record I have repeatedly stated that I believe Mahomes is one of the two best QB's in the NFL with the other being Allen. BTW, I consider Brady to be the GOAT. And I disagree with you. There is nothing I've seen in Allen's & Mahomes performances to make me think that if they switched teams Mahomes would do better then Allen in Buffalo or that Allen would do worse then Mahomes in KC.

In 2019, 2020 & 2021 Mahomes had access to much better skill players then Allen did. Big Advantage Mahomes. In 2022 the KC offensive line was one of the top lines in the NFL and the Bills had one of the worst. So in the year that the difference between Allen & Mahomes skill player arsenal was fading the Chiefs provided Mahomes with a much better O line then Allen had. Big advantage Mahomes. In 2023 as the KC O line struggled and their WR's were not very good Mahomes enjoyed the benefits of an elite, shut down defense that unlike previous great regular season Bills defenses continued its high level of play throughout their three playoff games. Big advantage Mahomes. And of course over the entire time in which Allen and Mahomes have been competing Mahomes has enjoyed the benefits of having Andy Reid as his coach. Big advantage Mahomes. From 2018 through the 2023 season Allen has never enjoyed a better situation then Mahomes. Not once.

Again though Mahomes benefited from a shut down defense in the Ravens game. After going up 17 - 7 how many times did the Chiefs drive the ball? Mahomes enjoyed a luxury that Allen has rarely enjoyed in the playoffs: the ability to repeatedly not score points on offense with the expectation that the opponent wouldn't be able to score either.

Yea my opinion of Wilson went way up after reading this: Saleh told the quarterback he would be inactive for the rest of the season and that the team would try to trade him in the offseason. But in the days before the Falcons game, Saleh reversed course and told Wilson to start practicing as if he might play again. He did not play against Atlanta, but after the Jets lost, Wilson knew they were considering starting him again. He expressed reluctance about returning to play and said he would politely decline if asked, based on his previous conversation with Saleh and fears of getting injured behind the Jets’ makeshift offensive line. Like a lot of other folks I thought Wilson was a baby for saying he didn't want to go back in. But if Salah told him that he would be inactive the rest of the season and then changed his mind that is non Salah not Wilson.

And Cook needs to work on catching the ball. By my count he dropped FOUR easy TD passes. If he can fix this problem he will be a force in the passing game to.

Another high profile potential HC is waiting to see better opportunities next season.

KC had much better skill players in 2019, 2020 & 2021. They had a much better offensive line in 2022. As for Mahomes being ahead of Allen in the "mental" aspects of football I agree and would point a finger at Reid as the reason. On his best day DaBoll was only a fraction as smart an offensive guy as Reid.

I would prefer that McD leads us to a Super Bowl and Johnson goes somewhere else. But I just don't see McD getting over the hump and to waste Allen's best years with a defensive minded coach would be so sad.

You misrepresent what is being said. First off this is the first season in which it could be said that Allen's package of skill players was on par with the Chiefs. Over the previous 5 seasons there was no comparison as Mahomes enjoyed a huge advantage in the complimentary talent surrounding him. But even this year Mahomes had a great defense that has actually played better in the playoffs then the regular season. Allen has never enjoyed the luxury of having a defense that wasn't anything but terrible in the playoffs. Mahomes has Reid. And the difference between the Chiefs and Bills this season was a FG. They finished with the same record and Buffalo gave KC it's toughest game in the AFC playoffs. I think that Mahomes is the number one QB in the NFL because he is the most accomplished QB playing today. I think it's fair to say that Allen, because of his unique physical gifts, may be as good or better then Mahomes but until he can win a couple of Super Bowl titles Mahomes will always be considered the "better" QB.

Cowherd said something similar today on the news that Johnson was staying put. Basically he identified a number of potential jobs next season where he could land with a great QB including Buffalo. Sounds like this makes you nervous. Allen plus Johnson could be DYNO-MITE! Switching to an OC with a proven track record could unleash Allen who is at the top of his physical gifts while nearing his summit mentally.

And he won't embarrass the voters with his playoff performances.

They usually vanish for a couple of days before starting back up. We are also likely the 1st seed if the defense can hold the lead that Allen gave them in 3 games with under 2 minutes to play.

I disagree 100%. Do you think that the Bills defense would have held the Ravens to 3 points for two and a half quarters like the Chiefs did yesterday? And if Allen was on the Chiefs what do you think he would have done to the Bills defense two weeks ago?

BTW did you see some of the amazing catches by WR's this past weekend? Sure there were a couple of drops by one guy but man I saw a number of catches that were breathtaking. Think about the three incomplete passes on deep balls: one to Sherfield, one to Harty (I think) and one to Diggs. Only the Harty miss where he laid out for the ball would have required a catch like we saw this weekend. The simple fact is that week in and week out we seldom saw elite, spectacular caches by our receivers. Disagree. Beyond Diggs, Allen does not have an above average skill player. Now I do believe that Cook, Kincaid & Shakir have the POTENTIAL next year to move into the top tiers of play makers but they're not in that company at the present time. And Diggs doesn't come close to matching Kelsey in the playoffs. The other thing the Chiefs had was a much better D.

I thought I would post this here to as it fits better then where I originally posted it: It's sad watching & listening to the completely different national takes on Jackson & Allen's games against KC. Most of the talking heads hate that they have to admit that Jackson played poorly but man are they coming up with excuses none of them would give Allen. * Excuse 1: Spags was great. Yes he was but most of the time, including the playoffs, Allen does just fine against Spags D. I wonder if you asked Spags who between Jackson & Allen is tougher to prepare for and keeps him up at night prior to the game he would say Allen and it's not even close. * Excuse 2: Monken the Raven's OC sucked and didn't run the ball enough. Wow this one is creative. No one outside of Allen apologists on 2BD ever call out the coaching as not exactly helping Allen out. And it is kind of funny that it's viewed as a problem for Jackson when the presumptive MVP QUARTERBACK is asked to throw the ball a lot. * Excuse 3: Because Mahomes! I guess because Mahomes was excellent Jackson can't be expected to be great. You know like Highlander where "there can only be ONE". But wait Allen and Mahomes have played in multiple games where both have been great. Aw shut up homer. * Excuse 4: Flowers fumbled at the goal line! I guess Jackson INT in the end zone means nothing next to this play. To bad for Flowers that he doesn't play for the Bills. No one outside of 2BD would be calling out that fumble as having anything to do with Allen sucking and losing he game. But since blame must be deflected from Jackson throwing it on Flowers makes a lot of sense. Oh and some Talking Head's were saying that Jackson may have, GASP, fallen in with the likes of Dak Prescott and Josh Allen in struggling in the playoffs? Say WHAT! How could anyone but the dumbest Allen hater put him in with those 2 in the playoffs? Lets see: * record: Allen is 5 - 5 versus a combined record of 4 - 9. Allen has more playoff wins then Prescott & Jackson COMBINED! * total TD's: Allen has more total TD's in 10 games then Prescott & Jackson have scored in 13 playoff games COMBINED! * total TO's: Allen has fewer playoff turnovers then Prescott & Jackson COMBINED!

It's sad watching & listening to the completely different national takes on Jackson & Allen's games against KC. Most of the talking heads hate that they have to admit that Jackson played poorly but man are they coming up with excuses none of them would give Allen. * Excuse 1: Spags was great. Yes he was but most of the time, including the playoffs, Allen does just fine against Spags D. I wonder if you asked Spags who between Jackson & Allen is tougher to prepare for and keeps him up at night prior to the game he would say Allen and it's not even close. * Excuse 2: Monken the Raven's OC sucked and didn't run the ball enough. Wow this one is creative. No one outside of Allen apologists on 2BD ever call out the coaching as not exactly helping Allen out. And it is kind of funny that it's viewed as a problem for Jackson when the presumptive MVP QUARTERBACK is asked to throw the ball a lot. * Excuse 3: Because Mahomes! I guess because Mahomes was excellent Jackson can't be expected to be great. You know like Highlander where "there can only be ONE". But wait Allen and Mahomes have played in multiple games where both have been great. Aw shut up homer. * Excuse 4: Flowers fumbled at the goal line! I guess Jackson INT in the end zone means nothing next to this play. To bad for Flowers that he doesn't play for the Bills. No one outside of 2BD would be calling out that fumble as having anything to do with Allen sucking and losing he game. But since blame must be deflected from Jackson throwing it on Flowers makes a lot of sense. Oh and some Talking Head's were saying that Jackson may have, GASP, fallen in with the likes of Dak Prescott and Josh Allen in struggling in the playoffs? Say WHAT! How could anyone but the dumbest Allen hater put him in with those 2 in the playoffs? Lets see: * record: Allen is 5 - 5 versus a combined record of 4 - 9. Allen has more playoff wins then Prescott & Jackson COMBINED! * total TD's: Allen has more total TD's in 10 games then Prescott & Jackson have scored in 13 playoff games COMBINED! * total TO's: Allen has fewer playoff turnovers then Prescott & Jackson COMBINED!

You are aware that Brady had Allen routinely checking down on his throws once he took over? Something that some folks on 2BD claimed Allen would NEVER do. The Bills seem to be moving in a different direction on offense and it's intriguing. We saw glimpses of it during the winning streak and tough loses to the Eagles & Chiefs. I think we all may be pleasantly surprised at this time next year.

There's wetting the bed which is understandable as that was Campbell's first Championship Game and then there's having uncontrollable diahera in bed which is what McD did in the 13 seconds game.

Not even close. I didn't like the decision to not kick the FG's but those were 50/50 calls at the time he made them. Thirteen seconds represented a complete collapse of the Bills special teams & defensive coaching. What Campbell did today isn't in the same ball park of coaching screw ups as McD and 13 seconds.

It would be a farce if Jackson were to win MVP after today's performance. If they want to save the reputation of this award I hope they give it to CMC. In addition to his spectacular regular season with well over 2000 yards in 16 games he has had a very good postseason. Rushing = 37 carry's for 188 yards and 4 TD's and 11 catches for 72 yards. That's a total of 260 yards from scrimmage and 4 TD's in two playoff games.

It was a great defensive design. The Chiefs were very disciplined n their pass rush and didn't get out of their lanes. And notice that Jackson struggled to hit the open receiver even when he had all day to throw. And don't forget that the Chiefs #32 dropped an easy INT that hit him right in his hands and Jackson made a spectacular play on the batted ball that should also have been intercepted.

He'll take local heat because local fans actually know more about their teams then the national talking heads. But so far Jackson seems to be taking less heat from the national guys then Allen was taking immediately after last weeks loss. Maybe that will change tomorrow but I bet it doesn't.