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Looked like pretty blatant face guarding to me

For what it's worth.... If the Dolphins and Raiders both lose this week the Bills would only have 1 win against a team with a winning record.

I'd argue that McBeane have been building that way (racing to the top). This team is built more through free agency/trades than the draft. We just traded away our 2020 first round draft pick. Our roster is older than most. Of the top 14 cap hits on the team, only 2 of those players were drafted by the Bills (Tre and Dawkins). Look at all the FAs we brought in this offseason (Addison, Jefferson, Butler, Klein). We went quantity over quality, but we were still big spenders. We don't have a lot of long term contracts out there, but most of the contracts we have coming off the books in the next 2 years are going to go towards re-upping Josh. We might not be "all in" to the extent that the Rams or Eagles were, but we're still in win now mode. Frankly, we should be. I'd gladly trade a year of cap hell for a superbowl victory.

Good QB's will be successful by their 3rd season in today's NFL, and should have their teams competing for a championship. Take a look at what these guys have done on their rookie contracts Mahomes - regular season MVP, Superbowl MVP Jackson - regular season MVP Watson - 2 pro bowls and 2 playoff appearances Goff - 2 pro bowls and 2 playoff appearances. SuperBowl loss Wentz - 1 Pro Bowl and 2 playoff appearances (injured for the first one) good chance he would've won MVP in 2017 without the injury. Eagles still went on to win the SB that year Paying your 1st round draft pick QB $30mm+ under "fair value" gives teams a tremendous competitive advantage, and good teams will use that advantage to become Superbowl contenders. All 5 of the teams above were legit Superbowl contenders while their rookie QBs were on rookie deals. After giving out mega contracts the Rams and Eagles went from "elite" to "borderline playoff contender". It remains to be seen what will happen to the Chiefs, Ravens, and Texans (the Texans have already imploded - they may not be a great example). If the Bills are a borderline playoff contender while paying Josh $30mm+ under fair value, what the heck are we going to look like in 2022 and on?

Were you asleep for the entire Chan Gailey era? We were one of the best screen teams in the league with Jackson and Spiller. One of the very few strengths of that era

Should we ask Chiefs fans if their 35-9 win over the Jets was "ugly" ? That's what a championship caliber team does to a bottom feeder. They don't let a team like that hang around and only beat them by 1 score. I'm not overly concerned about this last game against the Patriots. What I'm concerned with is the season long trend that our Defense is bad. I'm also concerned with the 4 consecutive weeks of average/below average play from our offense. With our franchise QB on a rookie contract we should absolutely be serious SB contenders. The fact that we're halfway through season #3 for Josh and we're looking like a one and done playoff team should be concerning to everyone.

Bills 20 Patriots 13

That's the funny thing when we're talking "signature" wins. Obviously none of those really mean the Bills "arrived" even though they might meet your definition. Fun factoid: The last 2 times the Bills beat the Patriots, the Patriots went on to win the SB that year (2016 and 2014).

Technically the Bills beat the 14-2 Superbowl winning Patriots* in 2016. Jacoby Brisket was the starter with Tom Brady suspended.... We also beat the 12-4 Superbowl winning Patriots* in 2014. In week 17 when they were resting starters.... I believe someone pointed this out, but we beat the Titans last year and they made the championship game. Although, that was a game that Marcus Mariota started and they missed 4 FGs....

Took the words out of my mouth. I'll add that I f**king HATED Dan Fouts. Thank goodness he was fired/retired.

That's pretty cool stuff. I guess it makes sense for the sellers if Tre's offer is for enough more $$ that it will cover the damages and then some. Do you know what a ballpark figure for damages would be?

Can the sellers breach the contract with the original buyers and owe them damages ?

As far as my personal expectations go this would have to be the worst loss of Mcdermotts tenure. He's winless in 6 attempts vs the evil empire. With no Brady and all the COVID optouts this has to be the worst the Patriots have looked since the 90's. Conversely, this is the best the Bills have looked since the 90s.

This hit is really not subjective, and with the way the rule is written this hit is a blatant penalty. There's a reason 3 flags came flying in from 3 different refs right after the hit. This is the exact type of play the NFL wants to remove from the game.

Highlighting a different section of the rule: Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is: forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck I can't believe we have people arguing that this is a bad call. It's a textbook penalty, and close to being suspension worthy. Hyde will probably get a fine

In this situation, the defender can aim the tackle somewhere below the receivers neck/head area. Hyde could hit him in his midsection and would still have a good chance of dislodging the ball This was a good call, and IMO the rule is a good thing for the game. Do we want more violent hits to players heads and more concussions?

Are we talking about the same play?

I'd recommend reading the rule that I posted. Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is: forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck Hyde put his shoulder into the receivers neck/head area. It does NOT need to be helmet on helmet to be a penalty. This was 100% the correct call. The NFL will probably add this hit to their video of examples of illegal hits...

This is literally a textbook penalty. https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/defenseless-player/ PLAYERS IN A DEFENSELESS POSTURE It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture. Players in a defenseless posture are: A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture) A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is: forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him He's clearly a defenseless player, and Hyde clearly put his shoulder into his helmet. 10 years ago that would've been a great defensive play. Nowadays that's a penalty 100% of the time.

I don't know if it's possible to overstate how bad the Jets are this season. The 18 points we scored is the least amount of points scored against the Jets so far this season. The 10 points the Jets scored is the 3rd most they've put up in a game. The Jets had the lead for more time in this game than the rest of the season combined. I'm happy we won, and I'm happy the defensive was dominant in the 2nd half. But, this won't be good enough against a team that's playing at even an average level. Bone headed penalties, terrible playcalling (4 runs by RB in the 1st half??), terrible clock management (including the Mcdermott special - using a defensive timeout for no apparent reason), multiple missed FGs, and 0-fer in the Red Zone. That's really not gonna cut it unless we get to play the Jets every week.

By what measure was KC's defense from last year worse than the Bills DEF this year? 2019 DEF rankings for KC Points against 7th Total yards allowed 17th Rushing yards allowed 26th Passing yards allowed 8th The only reason the Bills defense isn't bottom 5 across all categories this season is that we've played the historically inept Jets twice out of seven games.

A win is a win is a win, but dang. The game the Bills played isn't good enough to beat any team that's not a bottom feeder.

Bills 35 Jets 17 The Jets are one of the worst teams I've ever seen. If we don't win this I am giving up on the season.

John Brown had a pretty brutal drop on 3rd down on the first drive. If he makes a routine catch there we would've had a first down Overall I don't think Allen was as bad as the boxscore looks, or that Mahomes was as good as the boxscore looks. Allen was under constant pressure and had to throw the ball away a number of times. There were a few bad drops, and a few inaccurate balls that his WR could have bailed him out on, and there were a few flat out terrible throws. Allen lost a lot of yards to defensive penalties (holding or DPI). Mahomes had a very clean pocket for most of the night. He made some bad throws that his guys caught (Kelce catch for example). Not to say that Mahomes was bad, but he had a very pedestrian night.

Those are exactly the types of picks we could afford to give away. A 3rd+5th for an actual GOOD player on the defensive line. We're in a championship window with Allen on a rookie contract. We should be going all in this year and next year.