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Marino had a HOF coach at the tail end of his career and very little Elite talent surrounding him. If I were to compare 90s vs now Bills. Allen, Diggs, and Knox (though not by much over Metzelars) get the edge. 90s Bills had an OL I'd drool over today. Thurman and Kenny Davis were obviously far superior to what we currently have. Any wonder that our focal point for discussion has been WR (can you imagine us tracaliber? or aquiring a WR of James Lofton's calibre?), OL, and RB? I just don't care about defense anymore. Does defense even matter anymore? I'd love to see McDermott more hands on next season. Andy Reid showed he's a brilliant enough offensive coach that he could scheme an offense with Mahomes, Kelce and a buncha JAGs. It'd be awesome if McDermott could figure out how to do the same with the Defense (especially if Tremaine walks) while investing heavily in offensive talent in FA and the draft.

Dan Marino was a better QB than Kelly. He never won a Super Bowl and only got to 1.

Because Josh Allen is better than Jim Kelly. Yes, I'll go there

No they didn't. Short passing game was going strong all the way up to the bye week. Football Outsiders has a stat called Intended Air Yards per attempt or Average Depth of Target. I'm providing the link and you can take a look yourself, but knowing that Allen got injured in Week 8, take a look at those first 8 games. The 5 lowest numbers on the entire season were in those first 5 games. Plus, the Pittsburgh game had 2 passes alone to Davis for over 150 yards, so that 13.5 belies what was actually going on in that game. Buffalo's best and most efficient games of the season offensively (especially with regards to Allen) were likely the Rams, Titans, 1st Phins game, and the Chiefs game. All were games with an Average Depth of Target 7.4 yards or lower. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02/gamelog/2022/advanced/

You spend a long time bashing the credibility of him. Are you arguing that what he said might be incorrect because he isn't knowledgeable enough? What he said doesn't seem like it would be groundbreaking stuff you'd need to learn from years of Residency--and just as a side note, many physical therapists do go on to Residencies... it's just a choice for them unlike the medical Doctors. A UCL sprain is a pretty specific injury and seems like physical therapists would be pretty darn familiar with it. So you either think he's incompetent and lacks the knowledge in his field to provide the educated opinion he provides, or you think he's lying and using his title as a means to convince people his lie is correct. He was? Can you provide examples? Josh actually said he had to alter his throwing motion because of the injury. I don't understand why this is being viewed as some kind of ridiculous theory.

My bad! Fixed it!

Ummm... really? If he doesn't need the surgery my guess is that's because it'll heal 100% with rest. If it were still going to limit him, he'd get the surgery.

If you listen to Joe Marino, you've heard this. I'll post the YouTube video below of his podcast as well as the source material it was quoted in. Both are super interesting. Basically, Josh Allen’s UCL injury is why we may have shifted to a more downfield passing game. From Dr Kyle Trimble: “the arm/elbow angles based on the type of throw affect how much pain there is and how much stress was placed through the joint. Deeper throws require less accuracy due to decreased elbow flexion, thus reducing stress on the injured joint. Shorter and intermediate throws require more precision with a different throwing motion requiring more elbow flexion. The increased elbow flexion places the injured ligament on tension, causing pain. That in turn would affect speed. The faster he threw, the more torque is required through the elbow joint. However, the pain and instability limited how much torque the elbow could accept. With the offense predicated on timing to be in a specific location at a given time, any alteration in mechanics due to pain, adjusting for elbow brace, or speed could greatly affect the accuracy for ball placement to the receiver.” https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-ken-dorsey-struggles-2022-nfl/ As Marino says, it doesn't exonerate Dorsey. But it may give us hope that the offense we saw is not the offense we're seeing moving forward or even the offense he planned for.

Is it possible that Lamar Jackson's career is over because he's just plain stubborn and unrealistic?

This is one of the best interviews I've ever listened to. I friggin love Lee Smith!!! Dude's hilarious!!! Anyone up in arms about the specific comment needs to go listen to the whole interview to get a feel for the guy. I belly laughed several times while listening to this Interview.

Well... it might honestly be a blessing in disguise if another team pays him. It's not that I don't want him back, but if those dollars are devoted to our offense taking 2 steps forward while our defense takes 2 steps back, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Anyone listen to and respect Joe Marino? I was never a big podcast guy til I started listening to him last offseason. In his podcast of Locked On Bills yesterday he said he thought Robinson is one of the 3 best players in this draft and that he would not be upset if we drafted him at 27, but also said he didn't think he'd be there. He said Bijan is the best RB talent since Saquan and thinks he's better than Saquan. Take that FWIW, but 3 years of Bijan and Cook as a 1-2 punch might just be what gets us over the hump... plus we'd have 2 more years of Robinson.

I think Shakir could end up being a number 2 if Dorsey utilizes him the right way. His arms are just really short for a WR playing on the outside

Boy... you're taking that statement awfully literally

The Eagles defense gave up 28 points. Not 35.

I hope so. I'll say this... look at Diggs vs Shakir coming out of College and they're almost identical. Shakir has significantly shorter arms but seems a little more explosive if you're basing it off the Combine. I think we were all pretty excited to get him in the 5th round. I wouldn't be surprised to see him surpass Davis, but we should still hedge our bets and get a WR.

Are you proposing we resign Saffold as a UFA in a few weeks to trade him? Did you think this through?

If you were to take the careers of Juju & MVS vs Knox & Davis, this comparison becomes ridiculous. Production wise MVS >>> Knox and Juju >>> Davis in their NFL careers. And it's not very close.

Juju, MVS, Toney, Moore, Kelce, McKinnon, Pacheco>>>> Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Shakir, Knox, Singletary, Cook Do you honestly disagree with that?

It's not just Kelce, though. Andy Reid is still calling the plays and they have more weapons now than before. They swapped Hill out for 2 young but established veteran WRs, a young 1st round WR they traded for, a 2nd round rookie WR, and McKinnon and Pacheco at RB.

Holy crap... you were being serious

You do understand the very different situations these players walked into, right? The Chiefs won double digit games and went to the playoffs the 2 years before they drafted Mahomes and then again in his rookie year when he sat the whole season and had the benefit of being groomed under Andy Reid and watching a pro like Alex Smith in front of him. And they had Hill and Kelce from the start for Mahomes. No one is saying Mahomes would suck outside of KC, but coaching, system, and surrounding personnel matter and Allen has always been far behind Mahomes with respect to those things.

First of all, I figured the emoticon would make you realize that what I was saying was tongue in cheek. Really wasn't being totally serious there... not totally. But Allen’s never had 2 sure-fire 1st ballot HOF weapons to throw to along with a well-established mad-scientist offensive play caller and QB guru. And if you want to argue that Daboll was just that at the end of his tenure in WNY, we could point to Allen's historic playoff games last year only to be botched by coaching at the end of the game.

But that was the opposite of the Patriots' model. Still trying to see the connection.

On the one hand, I applaud your post. On the other hand, I think it's sleight of hand. Are 4 4th down conversions your argument for good coaching? Maybe drive 1 with the 4th and 2 on the 50 and the 4th and goal on the 1. But I think that's more analytics. Took players executing more than anything. The other drive they went for it on 4th down twice and converted, they pretty much needed to. They were down late in the game. To me that's not great coaching as much as trusting your players. And there were 2 TDs on 4th downs, not 3. How about a coach who doesn't make absolutely certain that the kicker knows to kick it short? Or a coach who makes sure the defense doesn't leave the best TE in NFL history a wide open seam in the middle of the field when the Chiefs still have a timeout? Those 2 things were pretty clearly just poor coaching decisions.