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Josh Allen is literally the greatest thing to happen to Buffalo. He ensured the team will never leave. The new stadium truly should have his name on it. For that reason alone, Bills fans should never complain. Regardless, all these reports are ridiculous. Jordan Palmer works with Josh every offseason and always raves about how hard he works and how badly he wants a Lombardi.

Holy crap! I think we might have the best roster in the NFL when you combine roster and practice squad! I can't believe we pulled Ingram back to the PS. That along with Isabella, Kirksey and Ankou as our vet PS players along with all the young potential we pulled in like Ateman, Shavers and Kline and I'm stoked!

Does anyone know the exact terms of the trade? When they're announced can the OP please post them so we don't have to sift through 25 pages of crap that complain about a guy being moved who was never going to contribute to this team this year, anyway?

You left out "it's in my blood." For the record, I have watched every single Bills game rooting for them, including that terrible 2010 team.

Horrifying. The local news has been consumed by this and you just can't take yourself away from each individual horror story. Gonna end up being the worst fire in American history. Shouldn't happen in modern times. We're super dry in the state generally, though. Wednesday I drove next to a brush fire on Wednesday in Wahiawa that burned 450 acres. Today I heard there was another brush fire on Old Farrington Road between where I live and where my in-laws live. @GoBills808 I'm glad you and your farm are okay. Big Island so frequently gets hit hard... glad you were spared of this. Need the rainy season

I really don't mean to make a joke about this because my sister is bipolar, but I truly thought this was going to be a thread about the main page and all Bills fans after preseason game #2.

I did the same. Watched a replay 24 hours after the game but read the comments first. People are stupid. Kincaid is going to be a stud. Might as well try to lock Davis up long term already. Allen will still be one of the 3 best QBs in the NFL this year. 3 biggest takeaways from this game.

Josh Allen is still amazing. Dalton Kincaid is going to be amazing.

Ya know I watched this game a day late after reading all these sky is falling threads. Allen, Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Torrence looked good. Our D will be fine. Need OT depth... but might be fine with what we have. Got blown out after 2 bad plays and a ton of uncharacteristic penalties. Bring on the regular season, please.

Wait... is Pooona Ford #98???? Are you sure you meant to say he had a bad night?

Isn't he 900 years old?

Thanks... sounds like he's been having a good camp. WR is seriously a position to watch in preseason with Isabella/Shorter/Davis/Harty/Sherfield.

Why is that? Everyone is going nuts over Gabe's camp. Sherfield by all reports has also been really good. If I had my choice, I would sign Gabe to a long term deal right now somewhere in the $10-$15m range. I bet his agent is seeking north of that, though. I know you enjoy trolling me, which is fine. That said, Sherfield isn't a scrub. Harty isn't a scrub. And dare I bring up the fact that Isabella has been impressing a lot of people in camp... and not just as a KR/PR...? Keep Gabe if we can. But Gabe isn't one of the irreplaceable pieces of this offense.

Yes, 100%. I'm in one of 2 boats: 1) Sign him to an extension NOW!!!! He is only going to get more expensive. Keep in mind it's not just about how he plays this year, it's also about the WR market. The WR market seems to be trending up, so even if he has another year resembling last year, I think he's going to be looking at a contract north of $15m per year next offseason. If we lock him up now, we could potentially get him for less. OR 2) Trade him for assets that will help us to draft a true #1B WR opposite Diggs in next year's draft. Everyone knows I started a thread about this that seems unpopular, but from all reports in camp, it looks like we'll have more weapons than we had last year even without Davis. And with the shift in our offense to more 12 personnel with Kincaid and Knox and how both are looking in camp, I don't know that putting Sherfield opposite Diggs with Knox, Kincaid and Cook as our other weapons is that huge a downgrade. Plus we'd have plenty of draft capital for cost-controlled, inexpensive talent. And yes, I realize some are pointing out the compensatory pick thing, but that also requires that you let some of your other UFAs walk and you don't sign as many as you let walk. It requires you basically sit on your hands and choose not to upgrade your team or maintain what you have in order to acquire a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.

Brown practiced. Why is this still a thing?

You seem like a sad, angry person. Maybe you're resentful of something in your life, but to make these 2 completely empty, meaningless posts on the same page of the same thread within just a few hours of each other really isn't a good look. Now... it's Saturday night. If you're drunk, it's understandable

Harty wasn't a flier for Beane. He's guaranteed,making this team as a contributing WR and we didn't give him a $10m contract to be a returner.

C'mon now... this is such a troll post... even for you, which is saying something. I've had waaaaaaaaayyyyyy worse takes than this

The comp pick thing is a valid point, but a lot of other factors would come into play with that, including how many FAs we sign/lose. You're presenting this as though if we let him sign with another team we'll automatically be given a 3rd or 4th round comp pick. We're still in wait and see mode regarding the 3rd round comp pick we'll supposedly get for Edmunds.

To those wondering if it's all ADOT to blame for Gabe's low catch %, watch this beginning at about 7:20. Going all the way back to UCF Gabe was 50%-60% in terms of catch % on passes below 10 yards.

Joe Marino covered this in one of his Locked On Bills podcasts this week and went all the way back to Gabe's college days. That issue of relatively low catch rate is still prevalent in the short to intermediate range as well.

If Gabe isn't an ideal #2 I would assume you would be against resigning him, right? His new contract is likely going to pay him at least like a high-tier #2 WR in the NFL, if not a low-tier #1. Is the rest of our WR corps really a bunch of JAGs? Is Gabe really that much better an option as WR than Sherfield/Harty/Shakir? And if he is, is one year of Gabe (since I assume you're against the lucrative extension) better than potentially getting more draft capital for next year's draft to trade up and get what (one would hope & assume) would be an upgrade on Gabe at #2 WR in the 1st round at a cost-controlled price from 2024-2028?

That's the point of trading him. The future. You don't pay Robin. If trading him gives us a 3rd or 4th, that's trade up cash in hand... and we all know Beane loves trading up. We just paid Harty money like he's going to be a decent contributor. Sherfield by all reports--including Josh Allen--is excelling at WR. We've all watched Shakir flash. We just drafted a TE who's essentially going to substitute for a WR most of the time. We (for whatever reason) just signed a former 2nd round pick from 2019 to our roster at WR. And Gabe has 1 year left on his contract but also has value. I will repeat that I don’t think we do trade him, but given all of the above, how bad would it really be to do it, especially if it helps net you a WR opposite Diggs through 2027 under a rookie contract even better than Davis?

I don't think we trade him, but recent events make me wonder. By all reports sounds like Sherfield and Harty are flashing in camp. With Kincaid and Knox we're going to run more 12 personnel than at any point during the Allen era, making WRs more expendable. And then we sign a recent 2nd round WR in Andy Isabella. I realize he's been a bust thus far, but why would Beane bother bringing him in if he thought our WR corps was set? And that's where the guesswork comes into play... I'm sure most view it as Shakir insurance based on his reportedly poor start to camp. I think that'd be financially kinda silly considering Shakir showed some potential in actual NFL games and he's one of only 2 or 3 (if Shorter makes the team) WRs still under contract after 2023. Gabe Davis will get a contract next season likely (as of this moment at least) in the $10-$15 million range, and I think that's actually below (maybe well below) what he'll actually get. We all know Buffalo’s CAP situation and what we're already gonna be paying Diggs since there's no out on his contract for 3 or 4 years. $40+ million (conservatively) a year to 2 WRs? And then there's this from the first few TC practices from Joe B's day 3 report at The Athletic: Davis targeted minimally the last two practices Following the Bills’ second day of practice, starting receiver Gabe Davis was quite candid about some of his physical and mental struggles during the 2022 season, stemming from an early-year high ankle sprain that wound up defining his output. He didn’t take the leap many were hoping for, but he remains very well thought of throughout the building. There’s no doubt Davis looks a lot smoother and more explosive on his routes than from when he was injured, but it hasn’t translated to much production through the early portion of camp. Of those 37 Allen pass attempts over the last two practices, Davis was only targeted in team drills twice. Both targets occurred on Friday, and to Davis’ credit, he brought in both for a shorter reception. Over the same span, Diggs (10), Trent Sherfield (6), Knox (5) and Kincaid (3) were all targeted more often by Allen. It could just be the start of camp and a feeling out process with Allen and Davis, or perhaps it’s a continuation of the lower target share Davis accrued during 2022. Either way, all eyes will be on the now-healthy Davis in a contract year. I know this... we already have a lot of draft capital next year and Beane loves trading up. What do you think Gabe fetches? A 3rd? A 4th? I think we could at least get a 4th for him, which is where he was drafted. Then Big Baller Beane uses all those draft picks to get our next #1 in waiting in next year's draft... Marvin Harrison Jr. anyone????