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So... we replaced two pro-bowl O-linemen with scrubs and a somewhat average QB with a backup and left basically everything else the same... And everybody thinks we got better... is this a joke?

When your team is a disgrace for 20 years, you need to find other ways to get excited. When the Brady Billdo got thrown on the field it was the most exciting pass I've seen since the 90s.

I would offer a 2020 1st round pick, but not a 2019 first round pick. This is an unpopular opinion ...but I can easily see us picking in the top 5-10 next year. Surprised you guys overwhelmingly said yes.

"stop having fun, it's embarrassing"

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Board/105323/Contents/Corey-Coleman-traded-to-Buffalo-120415798/ http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/50613-cory-coleman-traded/ https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/8/5/17654574/breaking-cleveland-browns-trading-wr-corey-coleman-to-buffalo-bills (comments) Whenever the Bills make a big trade/pickup, I like to see what the other team's fans think. Interesting stuff in here ... generally, they seem to think a 7th wasn't enough.

I think we can officially close this thread. You guys are trying to talk sense into someone who isn't interested in reality. Just close it and move on.

The only way we make the playoffs is if Josh Allen has a huge year. And he's going to have to do a lot considering the O-Line and WR group we've got this year. Our defense is decent, but you need a top 3 group to compensate for the garbage we're going to show on Offense.

This is a really bad hypothesis. Shady is a great pass catcher and would only improve a pass-first offense. If you're looking for a silver lining, it's that Shady only has 2 years left on his contract with minimal hit next year if we cut him: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/lesean-mccoy-5916/

This just in: Josh Allen didn't have good college stats. HOT TAKE ALERT ?

Getting the #1 overall pick would be incredible for this franchise ... not because there's one good guy, but because we could likely trade down and surround our young players with even more young talent. Trust. The. Process.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theramswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/12/nfl-los-angeles-rams-sammy-watkins-chiefs-free-agency-patrick-mahomes-jared-goff/amp/ Didn’t see this posted anywhere. Sammy telling reporters he wants a “QB that he can grow with” and that’s why he picked KC. That’s coming from a team with Jared Goff at QB. Kudos to the Bills for getting a 2nd rounder and Gaines for this guy, who certainly would have left in Free Agency and definitely has an attitude problem.

The Bills have the worst passing lineup in the league.

Here's an old article that shows how bad things got at the end of his Bills career: http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2255840 Great player, great competitor ... I don't blame him for being frustrated with the level of ineptitude our organization consistently showed.

One of the underrated steps forward we took is getting younger. Replacing Cordy/Richie/Wood/ with Dawkins/Miller/Bodine+Groy is rough, but if they end up playing well, we're actually building a future O-Line. The other guys were old.

I think a lot of Bills fans are going to be disappointed if they dont lower their expectations for this year. The roster is not that good and we're starting either AJ or a rookie at QB.

This is a cool story and props to Mahomes for doing what he did. This is also completely different from the Buffalo situation. Allen is competing for the starting gig against two late round picks that have never shown much potential. Mahomes was a very raw prospect playing behind a pro-bowler that just took his team to the playoffs. Mahomes knew "his place" and Josh Allen's "place" is starting.

The coolest kids are the ones who point out spelling errors.

This just in: Josh Allen's stats in college were not that great! Hot take.

This actually isn't absolutely terrible.... If Bills go 0-16 and Allen looks absolutely terrible, we either use the 1st overall pick on QB or use that ammo to trade down if we think Allen still has upside left.

I love this message board.

It's pretty simple, if you actually read what I wrote. If a team is 1-14 going into week 16, I would want them to lose to get a top 3 pick. This year, I just want to see wins. Not that complicated...

I had a realization today ... this is the first year in a long time that I want the Bills to win as many games as possible, no matter what the scenario is. Many years I've been stuck with the feeling of "alright, if they don't make the playoffs, I want to see them lose as much as possible to get a good draft pick." If it's week 10 and we're completely out of the playoffs ... do you want to see us win games or lose games this year? And is that a different feeling from previous years for you?

::Gruden voice:: I tell ya what, that big kid right there Christian Hackenberg. Boomin' voice so he can get the hard count goin, head on a swivel, TOUGH guy. Real Grinder. I see big things outta this kid some day.

My D is taking shape just thinking about the possiblities