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When I heard that the Bills drafted two Swing Tackles with their 3rd and 5th round picks, I was a little disappointed. It seemed like Center/Guard should have been at least one of the picks. I assumed, of course, that these guys were both future tackles because they’re 6’8” and 6’9” and tall players don’t typically make for great guards/centers. They get out-leveraged and clog throwing lanes. But then, I stumbled across an interesting fact.... Mitch Morse is the tallest Center in the league at 6’6” Ike Boettger is the tallest Guard in the league at 6’6” Maybe... Josh’s height and playing style allows Spencer Brown and Tommy Doyle to ultimately kick inside? Perhaps that’s wishful thinking, but certainly worth mentioning.

Name one guard in the league who’s 6’8”... much less 6’9”. They would be easily out-leveraged and would block passing lanes for Josh. They are simply Tackles. They are not Guards.

C I love the idea of drafting Defensive Ends and anyone who can effect the QB. However, this was the wrong draft to do it. There was less talent this year at DE than any other draft I can remember. I love the idea of drafting O-Line to protect Josh. However, we have a Left Tackle and Right Tackle locked in for the next several years already. Sure, maybe Darryl gets optioned out after 1 year, but is that really a better move than finding a way to replace Morse? He’s just as expensive. How about a better LG or RG? I would think those are certainly weaker positions both short term and long term. We got decent value for the picks, which keeps this as a C, but we could have done so much more this year.

No issues with going D-Line and O-Line. However, our Left Tackle and Right tackle are locked in for the next 3 years. If all goes well, the two tackles we drafted never see the field. If you were so worried about our O-Line getting man-handled by KC, wouldn’t you prefer us taking an interior lineman? That’s where we got absolutely crushed last year... not Tackle. Plenty of people are happy we drafted OL/DL and simply think we picked the wrong position to bolster.

Is this a joke? Stidham played last year and was garbage any time he was in. Are we really giving participation trophies to 2nd and 3rd round picks? Nobody on that list is an above average quarterback. Period. San Francisco drafted a QB at #3 because the current guy isn’t good enough and he’s the best out of all of Belichick’s failures. How are you arguing any of this??

Belichick developed Drew Bledsoe? That's a new one. Bledsoe played for the Pats 1993-2001. Belichick was an assistant for the Patriots one year in 1996 and then didn't come back until 2000. Not sure if you watched San Francisco, but Jimmy Garoppolo was the reason they DIDN'T win the Super Bowl. Here are the QB's drafted by Belichick the past 20 years: 2002: Round 4: Rohan Davey - sucked 2003: Round 6: Kliff Kinsgsbury - sucked 2005: Round 7: Matt Cassel - sucked 2008: Round 3: Kevin O'Connell - sucked 2010: Round 7: Zac Robinson - sucked 2011: Round 3: Ryan Mallett - sucked 2014: Round 2: Jimmy Garoppolo - average at best 2016: Round 3: Jacoby Brissett - average at best 2018: Round 7: Danny Etling - sucked 2019: Round 4: Jarrett Stidham - sucked You clearly haven't done your research, my friend.

I have absolutely zero fear of Mac Jones. Bill Belichick has benefitted from having a great QB for 20 years. No other QB they have "developed" has ever turned into a competent starter. Remember when we were all scared of what Bill could do with Cam, a former league MVP? Don't let the legacy fool you.

This guy reminds me EXACTLY of Chandler Jones (6'5 265). When the Pats drafted Chandler Jones 21st out of Syracuse I laughed because I thought he would be an immediate bust. He looked slow as molasses on film and had a bad pro day. The tape just looked BAD. However, he has the same "long strider" build and technique as Rousseau. It doesn't look twitchy or high-punch, but every long step gets him closer to the QB faster. As we all know, Chandler went on to be a 3x pro-bowler and league sack leader, garnering 10+ sacks the last 5 years in a row. Maybe I'm drinking the cool-aid, but they look really, really similar.

So, now that he has been taken #22 overall, does everyone still think he’s an undraftable bust?

For those of you saying we should "take a flier in the 7th round" and he's "not on your board" here's a team reportedly trying to trade up in the first round to get him. https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/football/nfl/player/63751/caleb-farley As I've been saying this entire thread, all of this BS about him having new injuries to his back the day before the draft is an indication that he is probably going to go HIGHER than we think, not lower.

I think it's equally likely for Bills to be behind this as any other CB-needy team. It's also equally likely this is true. The "told ya" folks are out in full force today, but this report proves nothing.

Yes, he has been falling down the draft boards from a top 10 lock to top 20-30 due to injury. Now, the day before the draft, we're hearing anonymous reports that he has SERIOUS medical concerns and will drop to the second round? I think it's more likely that teams want him in the 20-range and are trying to drive his value down vs Albert Breer's anonymous sources being right.

It's fine to think he'll drop a bit, but wrong to "take him off your board." He is easily the best corner in the draft, minus the injuries. An appropriate landing spot for him is 20-30. Gronk had similar back problems and back surgeries in college and he plays a position that takes more hits. Also, does it seem a little suspicious to anyone else that the day before the draft a journalist is "hearing from anonymous sources" that an elite player will need more surgeries and is broken forever - so definitely don't take him in the 1st?

A 31 year old CB in the final year of his contract with a $17M cap hit? WOW, WHAT INCREDIBLE AMMO FOR A MOVE UP IN THE DRAFT! Any team he signs with is immediately going to have to give him a new contract. That limits his value immensely. This is all just wishful thinking for the Pats, who have no QB, and no ammo to get one.

Wow, that was headache-inducing. Josh has gotten better each year. His best year is better than Lamar's best. Lamar has not gotten better each year. His style of play doesn't seem to work in the playoffs. Not really a tough decision.

All discussing best corner in the league. Nobody mentions Tre in the top 5, including Stef. Damn!

Prediction #1: Bills take Asante Samuel Jr. with pick #30. Prediction #2: The message boards and draftniks will say "that's a horrible reach." Prediction #3: He will have a long and tremendously productive career.

Thank you. For people trashing him, I legitimately don't think they've watched him play.

Zach Wilson was incredible, for those who watched him. Any other opinion is just trolling. The Jets are lucky to be picking #2 because he’s every bit as good as Trevor Lawrence and is an easy top 5 guy.

Can we get a third option for: "Don't trade unnecessary draft picks and hope he either falls to us or another good player does?"

If you put any stock into anything Brandon Beane says 1 week before the draft, the joke is on you. 50% chance it's true, 50% chance it's a lie.

Or... we drafted these guys a year ago and two years ago, so maybe it’s simply not time to give up yet? I’m familiar with “sunk cost fallacy” and you’ve misused it.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire sucked this year. I’m sure plenty of people are second guessing him.

https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/article/offseason-research/teams-are-never-first-round-rb-away This is a fantastic write-up on why Playoff teams are "never a first round RB away from Super Bowl." Obviously, very relevant to the Bills and they are specifically mentioned in this article. This also doesn't consider the draft capital we've already spent on Running Backs recently. If you're one of the folks clamoring for Najee or Etienne, give this a read.

They picked a QB top 5 last year. You don't know if he's good or not. Again, if he's terrible, I'm sure they realize that they will have another top pick to go along with several others.