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Or maybe Harrington was never really that great mentally.

That would be the opposite of a Brees / Rivers scenario. Actually , it’s not even that. Brees wasn’t traded, he was a UFA.

Last season I d say I was at a 6 or 7. This year about a 3. You knew lopping off those contracts would have a huge impact on what the team could do this season.

Sky diver , you there ?

I agree, and figured you were joking lol... but those tackles are an issue. I think we aren’t hearing about it because the G and C have gotten all the attention. Mills used to be the whipping boy and is barely mentioned anymore.

They weren’t all that great at stopping the run or getting to the passer. They did come up with a lot of turnovers, but that stat isn’t thought of as being repeatable year to year. That’s the reason for the low ranking.

Lol.... can’t wait for the Brady / Peterman comparisons either.

Definitely was . But the guy talking about WRs and the Oline made zero sense. The Bills OL troubles are largely at G and C; the middle of the line. Middle pressure on their QBs won’t be lessened by a WR. I did like Easley’s contributions to the team though, even if he never did much at WR.

Great on ST’s for sure. Imagine him in pass pro though !

Can any WR solve the Bills Oline issues ?

Why on earth would a Bills fan hope for a Brees / Rivers scenario for Allen and Peterman ?Last time I checked , one of those guys is going to the hall of fame and won a Super Bowl after the team that drafted him moved on. I know I don’t want that to happen here and most Bills fans would likely agree. Once Nate Peterman is no longer a Bill, I don’t want him to accomplish jack squat in the NFL.

I corrected it above. 2020.

The message was the Bills won’t take 3 years to decide. I think they will. When the time comes for Allen’s 5th year option to be picked up ( a few months after the 2020 season ends) is when it will be known for sure.

So you’re saying Allen will be off the roster before the 2020 season ? The team moved up to draft him in the top ten and we don’t even know how many games he will start in 2018. Not giving Allen that time to show if he can be a franchise QB would be ridiculous. Considering he may not have an OL or a good WR until 2019, anything earlier would seem to be jumping the gun.

Surprised the Rams are so far down that chart. Anyone willing to swap rosters with LAR ?

I’ll agree on hoping for wins, and regardless of who is at QB. If someone can prove to be excellent at the QB position in the regular season then they should continue playing. I don’t get the idea of some fans ( not you ) saying “ I’m rooting for Peterman “ etc etc. That implies having a horse in the race, rooting for a guy because of who they are. I think most of us want the Bills to have a top ten in the NFL starting QB. I don’t care one bit who the heck it is. I believe it’s more likely to be Allen than NP, but who knows?

I doubt anything like that has been done in the NFL. At least not that I can think of. Back to back high first round draft pick QBs ? There aren’t enough reps for both and teams don’t usually give up on a guy after year 1. Tough call, and it’s not likely next years top player is a QB but I still say no team would be likely to do this. Not just the Bills.

Interesting tidbit , although I’m not sure Aaron Rodgers is any better or worse QB because the Packers had Favre when he was drafted. It’s also not nearly set in stone that Josh Allen will not start the majority of his rookie season. He’s behind Nate Peterman after all. Unless Peterman is excellent ( unlikely) Allen will play sooner than later. I still contend that the OL situation had an impact on the decision not to start Allen. The possibility of Peterman being great is remote. There is probably little to be gained for the Bills past his 4th or 5th start.

Absolutely Allen was not as consistent , so he will wait for the starting job. That was likely the main plan all along. Remember , the Bills were interested in Sam Bradford on the opening day of FA. The price quickly went too high, but this was an indication of the Bills comfort level with Peterman. They settled on McCarron, but they wanted an experienced vet QB. So it’s not just about protecting Allen, but it’s a significant factor. The first four games are some of the toughest on the schedule. If Allen is injured his rookie year goes to waste. There’s nothing to lose by starting Peterman. He’s suited to a quick game passing philosophy , and was the most consistent. If he makes the most of his chance you keep him in and everyone is happy. If he flames out, you put Allen in and it’s not questioned. Also a factor is Allen’s status. Once Allen is in , you can’t pull him. He gets the better part of 3 seasons. He’s a top ten draft pick. Starting a QB other than Allen that they feel comfortable with was the plan unless Allen surprised everyone early a la Wentz or Russel Wilson.

Maybe, maybe not. We don’t know how NP would have performed had he started ps game 3 vs CIN starting defense. I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if he struggled. It was by the best D front the Bills faced and the only ps game where some gameplanning is done. It was the best indication to the coaches that their starting OL is worse than they thought . Anyway, I wouldn’t discount the Bills brass thinking about just what they’d be putting Allen up against. The line likely can’t protect him right now while he learns and the game slows down for him. If last years OL had returned intact, it’s likely that Allen’s performances look more even. The coaches then feel better about starting Allen. Unless NP shows he’s an elite franchise QB, he’s just holding the fort down while the Bills sort out their OL issues and bring Allen up to speed. As for the OPs question, if Darnold and Allen each start a minimum of ten games this season it will be about even.

More likely scenario is Peterman QBs the Bills to a 1-5 start , then is pulled for Allen who will start the next balance of the next 3 years at minimum ( barring injury) . If Peterman is the future, the Bills will be drafting a QB in round 1 of the 2019 draft.

Look if he’s the next Brady, our Bills fan problems are solved. In the far more likely event that he isn’t , it buys a little time to get Allen prepared and to see what can be done about the OL. Let Peterman play that 4 game gauntlet of horror to start the season and assess the situation afterward. As it’s been said, once they put Allen in, you cannot turn back sink or swim. He gets the balance of three seasons before they have to decide on a 5th year option or not.

And yet you watch every Bills game. Bottom line is the NFL is entertainment. It’s different from most business , especially ones selling goods rather than the various things the NFL is selling. The players as a group should not get a free pass. They’ve done a lot to negatively affect the quality of the finished product by fighting for things such as free agency, a restrictive CBA that limits practice time etc. That has made the job of an NFL front office that much more difficult. The NFL decision makers have certainly contributed as well, making the game more and more QB centric. This has definitely had a negative effect on the quality of the product too. It’s still easily the most popular sport in the USA, and still TV ratings gold in an era of declining TV viewership across the board. If people stop watching, the money will go away and then things would change. I wouldn’t bet on that happening.

Preseason doesn’t mean a thing. The Bills would do well to have Peterman turn out close to a Fitzpatrick level QB.

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