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Spot on. And if the Pats drafted Allen, everyone would be saying it was the pick of the draft. This is just Buffalo sports. Half of it is the media who can't wait to slam small-market Buffalo, and some of it from fans with BBFS who can't make themselves believe that anyone we draft is good. The cycle perpetuates itself, sort of a causality loop for press and fans with drought ptsd. It's an inferiority complex, stockhoom syndrome, and selective outrage all rolled into one.

Freakin' hilarious. I'm not sure Beane ever thought he'd have a love song written about him, and least of all by some random internet guy.

You can edit the OP indefinitely.... Well, not YOU of course, but the original poster can edit the original post as many times and any time after.

Once the UDFAs get signed, we need to do a list. I don't want to start a new thread for it given this one is pinned. Scrolling through every post on every page looking for new names (but finding mostly de beer) is tedious.

Well the fanbase doesn't get to make that decision. If it's up to me, AJM plays thks year. If he sucks, we get a nice early pick to get WR, OL, or RB help and focus on surrounding Allen. Fans can whine and cry all they want, Beane is going to do Beane. If he was going to fold to fan opinion, he would not have taken the lightning rod QB with a last minute mini-scandal. He's doing what he believes is best, irregardless of what we think.

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I'm not that good with hockey prospects.... And I'm still pissed about McDavid. How much of a consolation prize is Dahlin in comparison to McDavid? He supposed to be "generational talent"?

The more I see the more I like this kid. I'm not any more sure he will succeed in the NFL, but I think I'm closer to understanding why McBeane fell in love with this guy. It doesn't get anymore "family" or "process" than this. And btw... "Revenge tour", love that.

I'm starting to warm up to the minimum post count for starting threads. Either that or a breathalyzer on the keyboard. That just seems harder to accomplish...

Well, for years I have seen many saying we had great drafts, heck one time we even were the "self-described" winners of the off-season, and all of that resulted in bupkiss. Meanwhile, Goff, Wentz, Cam Newton, Jaemis, Mariotta, Mahomes were all risky/bad prospects that teams "reached" for. Grading a draft directly afterwards is like pulling out and then telling her "it's a girl". And you don't even know if she's preggo yet.

Fitzpatrick would have been a good QB with Allen's arm. Fitz has to put everything he has into every throw because he has a noodle arm. This results in him completely sucking in the second half of the season because he is tired and worn down imo.

Phin flopper! If you are going to be a Bills fan, that's it. No more switching. Welcome aboard.

Allen already had what is coloquially known as "haters". I hope he is used to it because now he's a Bill, which comes with a 2x hate multiplier in the media.

I can't name one, but I would imagine at least two of them will start at least some games this year. If AJ wins the job but sucks, I expect we would see Allen for the last few games. Same deal with Darnold or Mayfield if their teams get eliminated from the playoffs.

Just WHEN has this staff had a chance to try and develop a QB? But, you know... Carry on

OP is a reasoned, coherent argument. He's not who I would have drafted either, but I don't have that "Maybin" feeling about this one. I'm pretty optimistic for a couple reasons 1. We finally can identify our problems, and are proactive in finding replacements. They are not going to settle for mediocrity (whether Allen embodies it or succeeds). 2. Beane picked his guy, and was willing to move around the board to get him. Like Allen or not, Beane put his balls on the table, swung for the fences, and got his guy.

I'm cool with the Allen pick... I probably would have taken Rosen, but I also get why they took Allen instead. That said, people need to stop comparing his comp% to players from 2 generations ago. It does not help your case. Just go with, as Mayock said yesterday "projection over production", where you realize he had inferior talent and coaching and believe you're staff can mold him. He does have the highest ceiling of anybody in this class, but also the highest bust potential by a mile. There is no way to spin that horrendous comp % positively. It's bad, but hopefully he improves his fundamentals and becomes what they drafted him to be.

It's easier to give someone like Allen alot longer than EJ. EJ had no elite skills. Being that Allen is a height/weight/arm strength prototype, he will naturally get more time imo. Besides the mentions of Rosen's general douchebaggery, injuries were likely a big factor in why McBeane went with Allen. Even draft grade comparisons put his comp as Bradford.

Besides attitude, availability. Like Mr. Big Puff he's oft suspended for substance abuse.

Definitely... Unless he is EJ bad. With EJ you knew almost immediately.

100's of millions, nay... Billions of dollars... I don't feel bad for them. I'm hoping this thread is a joke, but coming from the architect of the "Orton WOF" thread I'm guessing it's sincere. These kids don't have to play football, you know it's their choice, right?

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Yeah I'm actually a bit worried NYG and DEN both take Qb's. Then if we don't get to 4 it's bad news bears. You never know, but it's a trade-happy and QB-happy league right now and this draft has a handful of them. It's going to be a frenzy whether those teams pick the QB's themselves, or trade the pick to another team that will.