sven233

If it ever got to a point where a trade was agreed upon for #1 or #2, it better happen immediately. Otherwise, if it is for any other pick, it won't happen until the pick that we are trading for is no the clock.

Happy = Any mock where we get Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield Sad = Any mock where we get stuck with Josh Allen or any mock that has us taking Rudolph in the first round Indifferent = Any mock where we get Jackson

I hope the Bills do whatever they have to do to get him as well..... In the 4th round......

Allen WILL bust Fixed....

The XFL starts in 2 years!!!! Say what you want about the XFL and this other league that is starting next year, but I am really hoping they both are super successful. The NFL is getting worse by the year.....

OK....stop right now.... The Bills are not trading for a WR that was just caught on video doing things that.......well, let just say don't fit the process..... On top of that, even if there was no video, they are not trading for a WR that will demand 17+ million on a new contract. Just let this go. Not happening.

Whatever gets me to 4 to get Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield. Praying Allen goes in the top 3 to anyone but the Bills.

Any option that includes Allen is out for me. Whatever it takes to make sure we get Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfiled, I will be good with. Have to get 1 of those 3 guys.

Actually, the real problem is that there is a real good chance he isn't any good......

If Mayfield or Rosen get to 6 or later, then I am doing everything I can to trade up there. You won't have to give up hardly anything to get from 12 to say 7 or 8, we still get one of the best QBs in the draft, and keep virtually every pick. That would be a dream scenario. That said.....won't happen.

If Allen is indeed their target, I am done with wanting them to trade up. If they want Allen, and he is there at 12, fine. But I am not trading a ton of picks, including next year's first, for a guy that I think has an 80% chance to bust. I have been saying that Allen does have all the tools you could ask for, but he panics, bails out of the pocket way too early, and is very inaccurate. I think he has a tough time reading defenses and is slow to process things. We just got rid of a QB with these same issues. That is not somebody I am willing to spend 5 high picks on. If he falls and you want to try it out at 12, I guess I will live with it. But there is no way I will support spending everything to go get that guy.

Troll alert for sure.....

Nope.....just a life that is epic..... I leave the failure part to you. You have that down cold. Keep settling for below average, loser. We know that's what you're best at.....always coming up a bit short.....

Some quotes from Beane today on the Jets trade: "Nothing in this league really surprises me," Beane said. "It really doesn't. There's so many moving parts in this league. That was a deal the Jets thought was good for them and the Colts did. That's what you want. It sounds like both teams are happy. "I can't worry about what the Jets or any other team (does). I'm just focused on the Bills. We're very happy with 12. ... Who knows what will happen. But right now, what we're focused on is 12." "I'm sure the Jets are happy there," Beane said. "Again, we're just focused on 12. I don't know the motivation for their move. You would have to ask them. Our focus is on 12 right now, and all the other picks we have, we're excited about what we're going to be able to get done." On possibly trading the 2019 1st: "If it makes us a lot better, and if it's a player that would be worthy of that, yes," There is a lot of picking apart everything Beane is saying today and in the days and weeks leading up to the draft. This is no different. To me, these quotes prove that he was well aware of what was going on with the Jets and Colts. He definitely wasn't blindsided and he almost makes it sound like he was fine just letting that happen. The last sentence here was the one I focused on the most where he said he was excited about our picks and what we are going to be able to get done. Sure, this can be read as they will be fine just drafting guys and being happy with the holes they fill. But I, again, probably reading deeper than I should, believe they know there are deals out there to be had if they want them. It sounds to me like they have a plan and are excited to execute that plan (probably to move up somewhere), when the time is right. I mean, at 12, you really don't know what you can get done just sitting there really..... But if there is a deal, or deals, on the table that can be executed, then they can be "excited about what we're GOING to be able to get done." Also, admitting he would trade the 2019 1st means they have talked to teams that have asked for it in my opinion. Maybe he is laying the groundwork here, preparing d=fans that it will be part of the deal. Again, reading into everything a lot. We all are. It's that time of year. But with everything he is saying, to me, he wasn't surprised by the Jets trade because he knows that they can get done themselves. Hoping this is the case anyway.

But, in this case, the steak wasn't $1000/pound. The Jets gave up 3 2nd round picks. Is it a lot? Yeah..... Was it an offer that the Bills could have easily beaten? Definitely. Not all steak is created equal, either. There are some cuts that are just worth spending a little bit more on. And in this draft, there are 3 guys, in my opinion in Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield, that are worth spending more than normal on.

Well, if they did all that for Allen, I will have serious doubts as to how long they will be employed here.

I will give Beane the benefit of the doubt for now, but I maintain that if the Bills don't come out of the draft with Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield,. it is an big time failure on his part. With everything the Bills have done since the draft last year, the 1 singular goal of this organization is to get a premier QB prospect in this draft. They have traded away very good players, accumulated a ton of picks, and already improved their draft positron once. There is no excuse for him not to get one of those 3 guys. I don't buy for a second that the Colts wouldn't have traded with us for the right price. Yes, the Colts owner came out and said initially that they didn't want to move out of the top 10, but now there are a ton of reports out there saying they wouldn't mind moving down again. That tells me that the pick could have probably been had for the right price and Beane did not want to pay whatever it was and the Jets did. So, if the opportunity was indeed there to make a move with the Colts, and Beane doesn't end up with Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield, all of the good will he has built with me, and a lot of fans, will be gone. I'm sorry.....but I didn't pass on Mahomes and Watson last year, trade Watkins, Dareus, Darby, and Glenn to come out of this draft without a top QB prospect...... So yeah.....Beane has the benefit of the doubt for now, but he needs to finish the job.

Allen going in the top 3 of the draft would be a HUGE win for the Bills.

So, if the Browns really want Allen and they are concerned the Jets will take him, it's time to get on the phone with the Browns. We get to #1 to take Darnold. Then, the Browns have to work out a deal with the Giants to get from 4 to 2. This allows the Browns to get the QB they want and, since the Jets are going QB anyway, the Giants still get their guy at 4. Every team wins in this scenario.

Another lazy poster with that terrible comparison. More awful every time those words are spoken. I like the first 3 on that list. Then there is a LARGE gap.... I would actually like Jackson on the Bills more than Allen. To me, Allen has probably a 80% chance to bust.

Yup. This why I am not sure if i buy it. If the Bills got the Colts to say yes, they should have been the ones to make the trade call to the league IMMEDIATELY. You do not give the other team a chance to back out or go searching for other offers. The second the Colts say yes, you tell them thank you and that you will make the trade call. The trade gets done. If for some reason the Bills had a trade agreed on and then sat on their hands for whatever reason, then Beane is an embarrassment as a GM. That is an epic failure on his part if this is true. Hard to believe Beane would be this incompetent, but if he was, that is just awful. But, this is why I would take this "report" with a grain of salt. Why would 2 team sources let this out of the room? It only makes themselves and the organization look like fools. There is no positives to telling people this happened.

I know where the other reports came from. Where did Albright say this, though?

I don't necessarily see it happening either. I just don't think it would be completely crazy, especially if I am the Browns. Like I said, I think this would be an easy decision to make to take all of those picks, especially if they love Allen, Rosen, or Mayfield. On the other hand, the Bills, while getting their #1 QB, would be giving up a TON. While I get it and would support it if they really have their hearts set on one (providing it's not Allen), I would rather go to 4 and get whoever is left of Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield. But I can see this making sense from both team's perspectives pretty easily if it does end up happening.

Maybe they don't have a clear cut #1 choice...... It is possible they have the QBs ranked very closely as I do..... Maybe Allen or Rosen is actually their #1 choice. We don't know. I'm just saying, if they don't have a #1 choice that is clearly head and shoulders above the others, they would be crazy to not look into this.

It's not wishful thinking on my part as a Bills fan...... I would not be in a hurry to get to #1. I wan to get to #4. If I can get there, I guarantee myself Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield. That's all I need. I don't need to get to get to 1 at all. If I was a Browns' fan, though, I would absolutely wanting this to happen. They should be the one's wishful thinking at this point and praying that it happens. They get a great QB prospect and a ton of top picks in the draft? I would be very jealous of them......even though they are the Browns.