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I have been grinding on these WRs for so long now it feels like aside from medicals and in person interviews, I have as good a understanding about this class than I have for any class since I started really getting into the draft many years ago. And I think that what a lot of these draft guys are saying about this WR class is right.....it might be the deepest it has been in years. That said, outside the top 3, the more I dig, the more flaws I find with the next tier of guys. Now, I want to say right up front that even though I am seeing more flaws in these guys than I would like to, that doesn't mean they won't be able to clean these things up and become stars. All of these guys have extremely high ceilings if they reach their potential. So, where am I at with this draft in terms of WRs? Well, if I'm the GM of the Bills, I have 2 different trains of thought as to how I want to go about this draft and I can make a case going either way. OPTION 1 Get super aggressive and try to move into the top 10 to get one of these potential studs. Most have it MHJ, Nabers, and then Odunze. To be honest with you, I could make a compelling argument for pretty much any order you would want to put them in, depending on the type of WR you are looking for and I would be absolutely thrilled with any one of these guys being a Buffalo Bill next Thursday. But man......it's not going to be easy to find a trade partner willing to drop to 28, and even if you do, it is going to cost a ton to do it. Most likely, 28, next year's one, Minny's 2 next year, and probably at least another pick or 2 because teams are going to force you to pay a premium to drop that far. They would probably ask for 60 this year on top of all that even though it would be way too much. But those teams that you are asking to move up with pretty much would have all the leverage in this situation and I would expect having to pay a premium when it comes to assets to do it. But, if you could come away with one of these top 3 guys, I would for sure consider it as long as it doesn't cost me next year's first and both 2nds next year as well. I would need to keep one of those 2nds. If you can find a taker, this is one option I am going to consider. OPTION 2 Stay put and then trade up back into the 30s and double dip at WR. I really like this scenario and it would be cheaper than the option above and I still think you would have a chance to hit a grand slam here. I am a big proponent of Legette. He's big, strong, physical and fast. Quite honestly, he reminds me a lot of Eric Moulds who I believe is the most physically gifted and talented WR we have ever had. I love Andre and everything he did for this team and he very much deserves his spot in the HOF. However, if you are just looking at the physical tools and talent these guys have, I still believe Moulds, if he had a real QB throwing him the ball for his career, would be in the HOF as well. But anyway.....back to Legette. I think this team, while talented at the WR position over the last few years, has sorely missed that big, physical, explosive WR that can just impose his will at times. I think next to Odunze, Legette is the next best option in this class when it comes to a player like this. So, in this option, I am taking Legette at 28. Then, I am immediately getting on the phone looking to move up into the mid 30s and taking another one of these guys that are in the same sort of bucket. That is probably going to cost 60, next year's 2 and maybe a 3rd or 4th, but it would be much more manageable than the move into the top 10 would be. But ideally, I am walking out of this draft if using this option with Legette and one of either Worthy, McConkey, Mitchell, or Franklin. You could maybe wait into the late 30s or early 40s for one of these guys, but if this is the option I am deciding to go with, I am committing to it and getting as high as I can in the 2nd to take the next available prospect. Either of these options work for me. I think both are exciting and would help this team immensely on the field next season. There are no perfect players, but there are some WRs in this class that could potentially be super stars and I want to make sure I give myself the opportunity to make that happen. I think either of these options will give you that chance to knock one out of the park.

Man.....it's like buying 25% of a money printing press. Could only dream of an opportunity like this. Someone is going to get the opportunity of a lifetime here. Good for them.

While I like Odunze, I am not doing a trade like that for him. Now, of course I could be wrong because who knows, but I think MHJ and Nabers are the only WRs doing a deal like this for. It's a tough deal for sure, but I am at the point, and have been for a few years now, that I'm ready to go all in. Not only am I making a trade like this for MHJ or Nabers, but I am also exploring the trade market for an established upper tier WR as well. My goal is to get 2 dominant WRs to pair with Samuel, Shakir, Cook, and Kincaid and just try to run other teams out of the stadium. This focus on defense has not worked, and has actually cost us games. Go all out for offense, find a way to get 4 stops on defense, and just try and blow teams out.

There are so many angles to this to break down.....some good, some bad. 1. The player - I will say this about the player himself. I have been a fan of Diggs before he ever put on a Buffalo uniform. When I used to watch the Vikings play, I watched him and wished we had a player like him. A true route runner. A guy that played with passion and fire. So, when we traded for him, I was very excited. And that is the player we got......for the most part. As a performer in the regular season, Diggs, with the help of Josh Allen, was a top 5 WR in this league. At certain points, you could argue that there was nobody better as a pure route runner. But, what we have found out over the last few years is that as good as he was in the regular season, he never showed up in the playoffs. He vanished and was a non factor in the biggest moments of the season. Now, not all of that is on him, of course, but regardless of the reasons, he never was that alpha we needed when it was all on the line. Unfortunately, the lasting image I will have of Diggs in a Bills uniform will not be a big TD or a dominant playoff performer, but rather of him dropping a crucial deep ball against the Chiefs when we were in position to take that game over and win that game. I don't know when or why it happened, but he suddenly became a guy that didn't win contested catches, would short arm balls and shy away from contact. It also became apparent in the second half of the year he was no longer the go-to guy he was when he got here and that he had noticeably lost a step and couldn't separate like he used to. Whether he was here this season or not, we were going to be looking to draft his replacement as he had fallen to WR2 status. That said, I am glad he was a Bill for the last few years. Just wish we could have gotten more out of him in the playoffs. 2. Dead Cap Hit - Over $31 million dollars is counting against us for a player not even suiting up for us this season. That is not ideal. Now, next season, having that money available will be great and allow us to do some things, but man......that's a tough pill to swallow and, hopefully, there is a play in place to make up for his lack of being here. 3. The WR Position - What was already a very weak position on this team is suddenly on life support at the moment. WR1, WR2.....both gone now. Yes, Curtis Samuel is here, and I do like him as a player, but he was not signed to be this team's top WR, or even a WR2. He is a great utility guy that will see a ton of snaps in our offense, but he will be used all over the field at WR and even RB at times. He is not a true X. Never has been, never will be. So, even before this trade happened, drafting a new WR1 was a top priority, now it is an absolute must. 4. The Draft - The draft was already shaping up to be interesting this year because we all knew adding another weapon at WR was a must. Now it might be the most obvious thing in the NFL. I would hope Brandon Beane and the rest of the front office doesn't make a trade like this without a plan in place. So, while I didn't want to rule out a trade up for one of this year's top 3 WR prospects, I wasn't expecting it because of how deep the WR position is overall. But now.....while I still don't expect a huge trade up, I do think it is a lot more of a possibility than I did before this trade. The thing is, now, not only do you need your new WR1, but you also need a WR2. Can you find a way to get both done if you trade up? Not sure, but there is a little more ammo to move around the board a bit to do it if you get creative enough. So, what was already a very interesting draft just got a lot more compelling. 5. The return - A 2nd Round Pick next year. I know some say that wasn't enough, but I get it. If you look at what other WRs have been traded for this offseason and last, they haven't gone for much. Getting a 2nd for a guy that is on the wrong side of 30, has noticeably lost a step, and maybe even feeling forced into the trade in the first place, overall isn't that bad of a return if you ask me. All that said, I would be somewhat shocked if we ever use that pick on a player. I think that pick will be moved in an effort to move around the board to find Diggs' replacement. In the end, this wasn't an ideal ending for this player here. I truly wish we could have gotten over the hump with him here because he was a great player. I am not going to get into the behind the scenes stuff because none of us are there and none of us really know what everything was truly like. But, even putting all of that aside, what this all comes down to me, is that he will go down as a great Bills player that never got it done when it mattered most. Unfortunately, we have had a lot of those players here through the years. Eating the dead cap bites. It really does. But, we have a chance to lessen the sting based on how the draft plays out. I am confident Beane has had discussions with teams in the top 10 and he knows what it would take to get there if he wants to. I am sure he has had the same conversations for the top 20. I know this draft is loaded with WR talent. That's great. But, the fact is, while there is a lot of talent, the opportunities to find a true X WR are not that deep. There are a ton of complimentary WR2, WR3, and beyond, but in terms of a true X, the options are limited a bit. I was already pumped for the draft. Now I'm counting down the days because it could be really exciting for us. GO BILLS!

I would do this in a heartbeat and smile all the way to the podium........

Diggs is going to be here for at least a couple more years. There is just no justifying anything else with the dead money on his contract. If Diggs truly wanted out, which I don't think he does, he just has to go to Beane and tell him that he will rip up his current deal, agree to one with no guaranteed money, and then get traded. But with the guarantees in his current contract, trading or releasing him would be flat out dumb. All that said, it's the main reason we have to find our future WR1 in this draft. Diggs, even if he is here, is heading towards WR2 status sooner than later. We need to nail this pick and find a guy that could possibly be ready by the end of this season heading into the Playoffs that can grow into the new go to guy. EDIT: WHELP.... Guess they thought getting him out the door was worth 31 million dollars. Hopefully there is a plan in place.....

Both teams have moved the ball. Both have turned it over when trying to score. The football actually hasn't been terrible overall. For us football junkies that just need a fix, I for one am glad it's on. Hoping the league can continue to grow and develop. Theoretically, the talent should be better this year on teams because there is only one league and not two to dilute the talent pool. But yeah....it's good to have football. I guess I forgot that they no longer have the XFL kickoff which I was looking forward to watching, but I like that they have a kickoff that more resembles a traditional kickoff. Hopefully it's safe and maybe an option for the NFL in the future.

Spring football has been around off and on the last few years as we all know. But this year, the XFL and USFL have merged in an effort to put better football on the field and the league is kicking off with the XFL Champs vs the USFL Champs from last season. Kickoff is about ready to happen. Who knows what the quality of football will end up being with the merger of leagues, but it might be worth a look if you are having a football craving. There are some very familiar names in the league and they will obviously have presentation features that the NFL doesn't, but may someday.....who knows.

Look....I know he doesn't want to point fingers, and no, I don't know who made all the individual calls, but I'm sorry.....if you are an NFL head coach, especially a defensive minded head coach, you kill that time off every time and it's not ever even close. Heck, most people that just watch and understand the game and never have coached a single down of football gets you out of that game with a win. 1. Squib kick - Probably gets you down to single digits and the Chiefs have 2 plays maximum. 2. Safeties deep and corners jam everyone off the line. You either force an incompletion, or a moderate completion. Either way, you are burning almost the rest of the time off the clock. I mean, the game can't end on a defensive penalty, but get super physical at that time. Force the refs to call something. If they do, you get a penalty, but depending on what's called, who knows.....you still take valuable time off the clock while sacrificing little yardage. 3. Force the hail mary at worst. You execute the 2 things above, at worst you are forcing a prayer at the end and not letting them even have a shot at a FG. And the thing is, there are even more ways than what I laid out here to get out of this game with a win. It isn't rocket science. In fact, it is closer to common sense. It shouldn't even be a thing that NFL coaches have to necessarily prepare for. Killing 13 seconds shouldn't be a concern. So yeah.....I don't know who made what calls in that sequence, but if you ask me, your head coach should be able to take over that situation, lay it all out, and get out of the game. You will not convince me the Chiefs were the better team on the field. They definitely had the better coaches on the sideline, though.

Sure.....providing that he takes a completely non guaranteed fully incentive-laden deal.

The problem I see with this is that a lot of these tackles happen by circumstance, not because players are trying to hurt each other. Just about all these clips show the offensive player getting out in front of the defensive player so the defensive player has to grab the player and pull them to the ground. I guess I am not seeing how, at full speed, they want the defensive player to tackle the guy that is trying to run away from them. They can't go high because the offensive player will just run through it. I guess they could try and trip them around the knees or ankles or something, but will that really limit injuries or will it create more? This is going to result in a lot more broken tackles because offensive players are too big and strong to not just be wrapped up and dragged down. I don't know. I guess if they unanimously voted it out there must be a plan, but I just don't see a lot of ways to tackle a guy that gets ahead of you in open space without wrapping up. It is a lot to ask of defensive players.

I know we have The Comeback game.....the largest comeback in Playoff history. They show this game from time to time and that's great. But man.....I think that is the only iconic game that is replayed with regularity that we actually win. Most of these "classic" games come on that we're in and I just want to wash my eyes out will hot peppers. We're in a ton of the games, and not one do we actually win. It's so frustrating. They play the Chiefs Playoff games, both I would argue we were the better team in and should have won but we give them away. They play the MCM game. They play all the freaking Super Bowls. I'm sure there are others as well, but I just can't change the channel fast enough. I lived through all these games live, I don't need to relive that pain again. I just wish we'd win a couple of these iconic games, a Super Bowl or two, just to have something to smile about when these games show up.

DE/Pass Rush, DT, S, WR, LG still need upgrades in my opinion. There are some other spots that could use work, but are passable with the starters. I realize you can't have all pros at every position, but you still need solid play. While I do think Von will be better this season than he was last, it's still hard to project him being a double digit sack guy like he was before the injury. AJ was nice to keep for depth, but he runs so hot and cold, you never know what you are going to get week to week. I like Groot, though, and think he will improve once again this season. But, there is no doubt we could use some extra pop off the edge. In terms of DT, Oliver is is stud. Jones is really good too if he can stay healthy. But, we could use another 3 tech with some real pass rush ability. I don't want to have to see Ed out there for 75% of the snaps. Hard to keep him fresh for the playoffs with that load. Safety is tough. We are so used to having Hyde and Poyer back there holding things down, but it became very obvious to those that have watched those guys closely over the years that they just couldn't run anymore. They played hard and with the vet instincts they had, but they were not the same players last year. Did we upgrade there, though? Maybe athletically, but I am not sure we can expect them to be better than Hyde and Poyer were even last year. We could use another playmaker back there for sure. WR is still an obvious need. While Samuel is an upgrade over the room we had last year, I'd rather him be featured in the slot and not outside. Over 70% of his snaps have come in the slot the last few years and I want him and Shakir to share the load there. I look at Samuel/Shakir as an upgrade to Sherfield and Harty. I still want another beast on the outside at WR2. Finally, the Edwards/McGovern switch. I thought McGovern was pretty solid overall last season. Wasn't perfect or flashy, but he was solid for the most part. Can he make the move to C? I don't know. Maybe. But to say he will be better than Morse was is a bit of a reach. He was still playing very good football for us last season. Hopefully McGovern can make the switch and holds it down for us for the next several years, but I am not ready to call him an upgrade at C yet. Edwards.....to me is a backup. He was great in his role last year, but to me, there is no way he is going to be better for us than McGovern was for us at LG last year. I think we could use another home run Guard pick like Torrence was last year to compete for that spot. Regardless, I do think our demise that the talking heads are proclaiming is being severely overblown to nobody's surprise. Are we better? I am not ready to say that yet. If we can hit one 2 year one starters at key positions in the draft (ie. WR, S, and maybe even a G), then I will say the same thing I have been saying over the last several year......anything is possible because we have Josh Allen. But we still need to get him some more help and hit on some studs in this draft.

Well, that's a positive I guess..... We just need to find a way to fill the holes we still have and find a way to pass this team by....

At least they didn't get another first or something crazy like that...... But, they got something for an asset and while I am glad he's off their team, it stinks that they are probably going to be able to add a good, young, cheap piece in the draft.

The best thing anyone can do with a Diggs' Tweet? DON'T TRY READING INTO IT. You are better off ignoring it than trying to figure out what it means. He's a Buffalo Bill. He has a contract that is pretty much un-tradable. Even if he isn't a top 5 WR anymore, it doesn't mean that he isn't good. He works extremely hard. He plays with an attitude and fire. Whether he actually 100% wants to be here doesn't really mean anything. He will play extremely hard on the field for us next season. He's already come out and said he knows his tweets get people talking. Heck, even Dawkins took a page out of his book and messed with fans and media just last week! These players know they draw attention with whatever they do. For better or worse, a lot of them just crave the attention and want to be noticed and talked about. Others rather go about their business and not draw any attention to themselves. Our QB is like that...... Our WR is not. But it doesn't mean he doesn't want to be here or play for Buffalo anymore. Just leave it be and he'll be on the field by mandatory mini-camp like he is every year.

Hoping another WR needy team that is planning to draft one in the first round takes him and decides they can wait until later in the draft to take theirs. If he would be happy taking a severe prove it discount just to play with Allen, then I would look at it, but he is going to want way more than what I am ready to offer. I want new blood. I want young, cheap, explosive talent that can come in and hold down the number 2 role until he is ready to replace Diggs as the long term #1. Williams isn't that at all.

Good for him that he gets to land somewhere if he wanted to keep playing. We know by watching him over the last couple years that, while he plays with heart, he just can't run anymore. He plays through it, but he gets banged up easier as well. It's going to be tough seeing him wear those ugly threads, but he's not a safety anyone fears or has to gameplan for anymore. Hope he stays healthy and wins about 5 games this season.

Thad Brown @thadbrown7 DaQuan Jones back with the #Bills. Per his agency, 2 years/$16M. $10.5M guaranteed. Seems a solid contract for both sides. And Buffalo keeps a huge part of their defensive line. Really good move. 10.5 guaranteed so that means 5.5 mill in various bonuses. Not too shabby. He's a dominant force when he plays. Just need him to stay healthy.

Beane After Dark is rollin' once again. Here's hoping there are a bunch of incentives to reach those numbers, particularity games played.

The player has steadily been getting better, but it seems like his productions comes in spurts. Hoping the money is modest and is more based more on incentives than guarantees.

Everyone on this forum counting down the hours and minutes until the sun goes down and the sky turns black...... Beane doesn't do anything until that darkness hits.

Now the 4th highest paid tackle in the league...... I love the guy, but man, that's a lot of money. Hopefully there's some outs if needed.

No.....and that's a big part of the problem. We are every bit as good as the Chiefs in a lot of ways, mainly thanks to Josh. But with the games we play against them, it is always guys like Kelce and Chris Jones......HUGE IMPACT PLAYERS, that ultimately beat us in the end. We don't have players like that, outside the QB position, that can turn a game by themselves. Diggs is supposed to be one of those guys, but he disappears in the biggest moments against that team.