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Some may or may not agree, but if I were the Browns I would absolutely trade the 1st pick to the Bills! I wouldn't have to think about it for very long at all. Contrary to what most think, the Browns already have quite a bit of talent on their team. Coupled with the fact that they already had a ton of high picks in this draft, and the additional haul of high picks from the Bills they could get this year, the Browns could be a legitimate Super Bowl contender in a year or 2. As you all know by now, I have 3 QBs rated very closely this year in Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield. I am not high on him, but maybe the Browns even love Allen as well. The Browns are in a prime position with that pick at 4 to get pretty much any one of these guys they want, aside from whoever the Bills would take at 1. The could possibly trade up from 4 with the Giants to get to 2 if they want, or they could just sit tight if they have a good idea of who the Jets are taking at 3. The Browns, with the talent they do have already, and if they were to pick 4 / 12 / 22 / 33 / 35 / 53 / 56 / 64 / 114 / 150 / 175 / 205 (plus 2019 1st x2) as mentioned above, could conceivably compete for a Championship in 2 years. If the Bills were in this situation and we had the top pick in this draft and some team was offering all this to me, I would be begging the Bills to trade the 1st pick. It's a no-brainer if you ask me, if I'm the Browns. What a way to set your team up for the next 5-10 years with all those picks. The only problem is, we would have to be competing with them and find a way to beat that team with all that talent to get to where we want to go! Honestly, it is a win-win for both the Bills and Browns to make this happen.

NFL Media ✔ @NFLMedia "He has a lot of momentum building in the right direction. I don’t know where he goes but he’s going much higher than what his tape suggested he should go." -- @BuckyBrooks 3:17 PM - Mar 23, 2018 And there in lies the problem...... Like I said, he could end up being good. Maybe he will end up the best QB out of the class. But I'm sorry. I watch a ton of football and I much rather take the guy that performs in the games than the guy that performs well in shorts against air. Will Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield be better in the end? I don't know. But what I do know is that I want all 3 of them....and probably Jackson as well, over Allen. Give me the the guys that actually put some greatness on tape in games action.

Some may want to stay at 12. Some may want to do whatever it takes to get to 1 or 2. Some may want to move up a couple spots, but not too high. With everything that has gone down over the last several days with the Jets trade, maybe the Giants trade of JPP, the presumed consensus that Darnold will indeed be going first overall, etc. the draft is shaping up in a way that we have a pretty good idea of where things are headed at this point. For me, it has become clear that getting to 2 is going to be extremely difficult, if not impossible at this point. The Giants, to me anyway, look like they really like a guy and might not move for anything at this point, and, after thinking about it for a while, I'm fine with it. After the Jets made their way to 3, I was mad that it wasn't us. But as of now, with the way things are starting to take shape at the top of the draft, I'm not that upset with it anymore. Right now, my biggest question marks are what the Broncos are thinking at 5 and what move, if any, the Cards and Dolphins might be planning if they are gunning for a QB. With all of that laid out, I think I have settled on #4 being my perfect spot to get to and here's why. I believe the Giants are wanting to stay at 2 and select a non-QB player. Obviously, that's not ideal for some that are set on moving up to 2, but I have made up my mind that i don't need to get there anymore. From the very beginning, I have been high on 3 guys....Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield. My entire goal for this off season was to come out of the draft with 1 of those 3. With all the recent developments, as it sits right now, 2 of those guys are locks for the top 3 (unless by some miracle the Jets or Browns love Allen). This is why #4 is the perfect pick for me at this point and I want to get there not not even bother trying to get higher. Darnold goes 1. The Giants take a non-QB at 2. The Jets take Rosen/Mayfield/Allen at 3, and then I sit at 4 and take either Rosen or Mayfield and be ABSOLUTELY THRILLED with the pick. If I'm at 4, I am guaranteed 1 of the guys I love (providing the Giants don't go QB as I expect that they won't) and by getting to 4 now, you block the Broncos, Dolphins, and Cardinals from trying something funny and taking that spot. Granted, it is completely possible the Broncos aren't taking a QB anyway and the Dolphins and Cards are in no hurry to move up. But I don't know that, so to be safe, I want to take care of my own future and just trade to 4 to take any risk of someone jumping you out of the equation. I have Rosen and Mayfield pretty much dead even on my board, so to come away with one of them at 4, would be a huge win. Obviously, the Bills may like 1 guy more than the rest, but I can make it work with any one of Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield. So, right now, the perfect spot on the board for me is #4 and, while we will have to trade up to get there, conceivably, the price to get there should be a bit less than getting to 2 which is also a bonus. So, yeah.....my sweet spot in the draft is 4 and I am ready to get there and stay. Where is your spot on the board? Do you have your mind made up at this point?

The thing is, yes....this is a highlight reel. But I have watched virtually every game he has played and while these are the highlights, this is how he plays week in and week out. He makes every throw you could possibly ask for, mostly from the pocket. The guy has every opportunity to be a great QB for a long time and I will love to do whatever it takes to get him. As I have been saying, if the Bills don't come away from the Draft with Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield, it is an all time failure by Beane. With all the ammo he has, and not to get one of these 3 guys, is inexcusable.

Every single time I see this guy I feel like I am watching the next Drew Brees. The guy can read a defense, gets the ball out on time, and is deadly accurate. If he was 2 inches taller, there is not a doubt in my mind he would be the #1 overall pick. Honestly, I think he is the perfect QB for the Bills and where offense is going in the NFL. Because his decisions are so quick, and he can read a defense faster than most, coupled with arm strength and decent mobility, it makes him the perfect kind of guy to run an RPO based offense. I think this is the next big thing in the NFL and what we have seen to this point from the Eagles and a couple other teams is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to RPO based offenses. This guy will be great at it. He can make every throw you want on the football field while also using the right amount of touch on all of his throws when necessary. Add in his fiery competitiveness and underdog mentality, there is no better team he could end up on than the Bills. For me, not coming out of of this draft with Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield would be an all time failure on Beane's part. With the ammo we have, there is no reason we shouldn't get 1 of those 3 guys. No excuses.

If they like Chubb, the best way for this to work for both us and them is for us to somehow strike a deal with Cleveland at 4. If we can get to 4, we can pretty easily get to 2. Everyone knows we are taking a QB. Everyone knows the Jets are taking a QB at 3. So, we need to get to 4, call the Giants and tell them we are going QB for sure and then get them to trade with us to 4. We get the 2nd QB off the board. The Jets get the 3rd QB off the board, and the Giants still get Chubb at 4 along with whatever we trade them to move from 2 to 4. This is a win for both teams. Bills get their guy, the Giants get their guy, and both teams in the process screw over the Jets in some way. It's a win for everyone.

He's a guy that has every physical tool you dream about a QB having. That said, I have watched a lot of him and he is slow to process the field, he's late on throws all the time (gets away with it because of his arm in college, but probably won't in the NFL), and he bails out of the pocket way too early, way too often. If you watch him, a lot of the "wow" throws he makes, which are impressive, are unnecessary in a lot of ways. I mean, this might be a bit of a stretch, but he is a lot like Tyrod in terms of reading the field and bailing out too early. Because he is slow through his reads, he bails out of the pocket a lot, even if there is no pressure, WAITS to see guys come open and then throws. Taylor had the same problems having to wait to see guys come open. Allen gets away with it more because of his arm strength, but he is not a guy that throws guys open a ton and the ball comes out real late too many times for my liking. That is where the comparisons to Taylor ends because Allen is a superior passer for sure, but the way he reads the field, bails out early, and has to wait for guys to come open to throw many times is very concerning to me. Give me a guy that moves around in the pocket, slides up, and steps into a throw any day over Allen. Allen may turn out to be good someday because, as I said, he has every tool you look for. But there are more things that concern me than don't and I would be much more comfortable with several other guys in this class before him. Right now, he's behind Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield.....at least. Maybe even Jackson. There are much better options in this draft and I hope the Bills see it too.

Seeing a Bills logo standing right behind Darnold watching him throw..... Hard time seeing who it is, though.....

Just wanted to remind everyone that might be interested in checking it out, the USC Pro Day is currently airing live on the NFL Network. They have run some 40s and cone drills to this point. Darnold will be throwing soon. He is currently doing stretching and some light warmups as he prepares to show the Browns, and the rest of the NFL, what he has. I know we haven't been focused on him much because we all anticipate he will be going #1, but it still might be worth checking out just in case. I can tell you the Browns have a ton of people there including their owner, so we can all see where this is most likely going, but hey.....you never know. I haven't heard who the Bills have there in attendance, but if I get that information somewhere along the way, I will update the post. So, to all of you that tune in, enjoy!

http://www.tmz.com/2018/03/20/zay-jones-arrested-nude-smashed-window-vandalism-buffalo-bills-player/ Uh oh..... Man, the video looks like a murder scene at some points..... This is not good at all...... Guess we know where the Hurns interest is coming from now. " Buffalo Bills wide receiver Zay Jones got into a bizarre naked struggle with his brother -- who's also in the NFL -- and it ended in a bloody mess ... with Zay in handcuffs. TMZ Sports obtained this video of the crazy fight that went down Monday night in a downtown L.A. apartment building. Zay is stark raving nude while grappling with his brother -- Cayleb Jones of the Vikings. You can hear Zay yelling, "I'm going to fight for Jesus" ... and according to witnesses, Cayleb was trying to stop him from jumping out a 30th floor window. Zay eventually broke free, and ran into Cayleb's gf's apartment ... you can hear her screaming. We're told at some point, he ran back out of the apartment, entered a public balcony area and smashed his foot through a window. Photos from the scene show blood on the shattered window, and all over the floors and walls. We're told Zay actually tried to squeeze through the hole in the window, but Cayleb restrained him until police arrived, and arrested him for felony vandalism. Jones was the Bills' 2nd round draft pick last year. According to law enforcement sources, he's being held in the medical ward of L.A. County Jail. It's unclear what his condition is at this point. We've reached out to the NFL, but no word back yet."

From the moment they passed on Mahomes and Watson a year ago, I EXPECTED this to be the year that we invested everything into finding our next franchise QB. I have been on board with taking this approach for years now and, finally, I thought the Bills were to. Sometimes you just have to take your swing and do everything you can to make sure you find your guy and then build around him. We have been filling every other hole on this teams for years and what happens? Players come and players go....... Holes are filled and new ones are created all while we remain a middling team that is never good enough to win anything. Why, because the biggest hole on this team has been QB the entire time and yet, we have ignored it and have never taken a major swing at getting the position right. Well, now is the time. That said, I am on board for doing whatever it takes to get to #2 this year.......with 1 exception...... The Bills have been working towards this goal of finding a franchise QB for the last year. We have let very good players walk out the door, added draft picks, have moved up in the draft already to put us in a better position for a final move into the top 3-5 picks. Now, they just need to finish the job. Trade whatever you need to trade to get to #2. I don't have a problem with it unless all of this stuff was done to get to Josh Allen. Lord help me if they trade multiple first round, 2nd round, 3rd round picks.....and really good football players over the last year in order to draft Josh Allen. Look, Allen may be good someday, but as I have been saying, there is a much better chance that he never pans out. All the tools, but I don't see the accuracy and the ability to read defenses quick enough to be a star. I think there is a good chance he flops. So, yeah......trade everything you have to and if you come away with Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield, I'm good. It's time to have an elite prospect at the QB position on this team. But if they like Allen, I'd rather stay at 12, draft Jackson and use the rest of our picks.

I'm sorry....this is so dumb. There is no possible way for Sal, Rodak, Patrick, or anyone else for that matter to know whether the 2 GMs have talked. Unless the "source" is the GMs of the teams, and you have a wiretap on their phones, there is no way to know. Even if you asked the GMs, you can't trust a word they say at this point. The fact is, it would be irresponsible on both teams parts i they haven't talked, even casually, about if the pick is available and what it might take. The teams would be doing a disservice to themselves if they don't have some idea of where they each stand on a possible trade. And yeah.....there is no way any fan or media personnel knows who has talked to who and about what at this point unless the rooms are bugged or the phones are tapped. This whole thing of did they or didn't they is pretty dumb if you ask me. And if they haven't talked, then shame on both teams because that's pretty stupid to not even have a 30 second conversation to see if it was available at all.

The money just came back on Preston Brown's contract...... How'd he do compared to the money I said I thought he was worth? This is not me saying I told you so or anything like that. He maybe could have gotten more elsewhere for all I know. But the fact is that he is not an elite player. He is a decent player that is replaceable and not worth the big money other LBs were getting. Regardless, we do have a big hole at MLB now and I do expect it to be addressed early in the draft, depending on what picks we have left if we trade up. There are some good ones in the draft and I expect we might be better at MLB next season depending on who we get.

Well, that sounds like a lot of fun over the next 6 weeks...... Just sit back and relax. No need to talk about the most important position in sports at all..........

This is where I wish I knew what the Bills know at this point. My guess is they have a pretty good understanding of who the Browns are taking at 1 and I would not be shocked at all if they had a good feeling about who the Jets want at 3. The Bills might even have a guess is to how serious Denver is about taking a QB at 5. All of that information is very important when it comes to deciding how much I would be willing to give up. If I know that Darnold is going to Cleveland and the Jets are taking Rosen, I am more apt to want to trade up. But if the Bills think it is Darnold and Allen in spots 1 & 3, and they think the Broncos are not going QB at 5, then I am willing to take the chance and only trade up to 7 and saving a lot of assets in the process. I guess I just think that the Bills brass know more about how the top picks are shaping up than we do on the outside and that means they know more about where they need to get to to get their guy. I have been saying all along I want 1 of Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield. If the Bills honestly believe there is a chance to get one of them, maybe even 2 of them depending on how it plays out with Allen, after pick 5......then I say roll the dice and see if you can get one of those 3 guys at 7. Trade up to make sure you get the guy you want and don't allow the Dolphins or Cards to beat you up the board, though.

Good thing Jackson isn't a run first QB then.....

Like I said above, maybe the Bills have a firm grasp on what the the Giants, Jets, and Broncos are planning to do. Ideally, Darnold, and Allen are the QBs that come off the board early to the Browns and Jets. Then, the Giants and Denver decide to pass on a QB allowing Rosen and Mayfield to slip to the back half of the top 10. From there, once they slip out of the top 5-6, the Bills make the move for their guy in the 7-9 range (making sure the Dolphins or Cards don't get any ideas) only giving up a fraction of what they would have to in order to get to 2. Although unlikely, it could happen. But, at this point, this would be the ideal scenario. If this turns out to be the case, give Beane GM of the decade now......

The only thing I take solace in at this point is that I find it hard to believe that the Bills were caught off guard by what happened yesterday. There was no way that the Bills didn't know that trade was happening or that the Jets were trying to move up. It's not like the Colts and the Jets were keeping a big secret from the rest of the league. I am sure the Bills were called by the Colts, told of the trade and asked if the Bills wanted to beat the offer or needed to work to beat the offer. The Colts would have been dumb not to call every team in the league asking teams if they wanted to beat the Jets offer. With the reports that the Jets called about #1 as well, the Bills were well aware of what was happening. And, in the end, the Bills must have decided to let the Jets go ahead with the move because there is no doubt that they had a lot more assets to offer than the Jets did. Even if the Colts told the Bills they didn't want to drop out of the top 10 or so, the Bills could have easily told them to sit tight, put a package together to get a little higher than 12, and then make their own deal with the Colts. But, the Bills obviously didn't want to do that for whatever reason. I don't know why the Bills didn't want to get involved in that yesterday. They must have their reasons and maybe we'll find out why over the next few weeks. Maybe they have a deal in principle with the Browns or Giants already. Maybe, and not saying I agree with it, the have Jackson as their top rated QB and believe that they can get him at 12 and don't have to move. I don't know. The one thing I do know is that the Bills were well aware of what was going on with that trade yesterday......probably for days before it happened and they decided to let it happen without putting up a fight. Why.....hopefully we find out sometime soon. But I guarantee they weren't shocked hearing the news. In my ideal world at this point, Darnold, and Allen are the QBs that come off the board early, the Giants and Denver decide to pass on a QB allowing Rosen and Mayfield to slip to the back half of the top 10. Then, once they slip out of the top 5-6, the Bills make the move for their guy only giving up a fraction of what they would have to in order to get to 2. Although unlikely, it could happen. But, at this point, this would be the ideal scenario.

Laziest comparison I have ever seen. Just terrible. Look, Jackson may not be a top prospect or turn into anyhting special in the NFL, but to compare him to Taylor because he is black and can run is lazy. The guy has more pocket presence, vision, arm talent, and throwing ability than Taylor could ever dream of having. On top of that, as good of an athlete is Taylor is, Jackson is even a better athlete as well. I am not sure if Jackson will ever be good in the NFL, but to compare him to Taylor is awful. Taylor, as a passer, is one of the worst pure passers in the history of the league.

Losman had a much bigger arm and was a lot more mobile.... Rudolph might be a little more accurate, but he misses easy throws than no NFL QB should miss on a regular basis.

Wow.....this comparison couldn't be further from the truth. I watched every single one of his games and the last guy he should be compared to is Tom Brady. The guy throws a beautiful deep ball. Maybe the nicest deep ball in the entire class. After that.....nothing. Weak arm, especially for a guy that size. Inaccurate on short to intermediate passes. Plays in a gimmick offense that spreads the field and designs guys to get open. Works only out of shotgun. Not a great runner to say the least. His ceiling is not high at all. Good kid. Well respected and a hard worker, but will need a lot of work to become even an average NFL QB. Tom Brady he is not.

If this is true and the Bills love Allen, then I think a big thank you is needed for the Jets for the trade they made yesterday. If the Bills had intentions of trading a ton of assets away to get into the top 5 only to draft Josh Allen, then the Jets may have done the Bills a huge favor yesterday. The only thing that is worse than not being able to trade for for the guy that we want is trading up for Josh Allen. If Allen makes it to 12 on his own, I am still not sure I want to draft him anyways. But trading multiple first and 2nd round picks for Allen would be a disaster. Look.....Allen could very well be good someday. Who knows, he could turn out to be the best QB in the class, but man.....there is a much better chance that he won't be and I would prefer some other team to take that chance.

Not true

Wanna bet?

That's the point, though. Just because fans are not in the front office doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about. There are many of us that watch a ton of college football, break down the film and have just as much of an understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of a prospect that he teams themselves do. Do any of us know for sure who will be good and who won't? No. But neither do the teams. But we are smart enough to know what prospects may give us the best chance in getting it right and you are much likelier to hit on one if you get a top prospect rather than a 2nd tier guy. Can the 2nd tier guys sometimes turn out? Sure. But we haven't had a QB here in 20 years mainly because we never put ourselves in position to have a chance to get a top prospect. We had that chance this year and if we don't come away with a top prospect, then it's been failure in my opinion.