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The NFL salary cap is an illusion.

By bust, I mean that he wasn’t gonna be a starter in the league, let alone measure up to his status as the 7th overall pick. That was strictly a fabricated narrative based on a shallow interpretation of college stats by talking head pundits. But it was NEVER the consensus among NFL scouts and other talent evaluators, who had the resources to conduct in depth evaluations of not only his physical attributes for the position but his aptitude for the job as well. They were also able to put his “accuracy numbers” in context as well, because pro scouts and other talent evaluators know that accuracy doesn’t just mean completion percentage, which is all the talking heads pointed to as proof that he wasn’t going to succeed. The only concern scouts had was his experience at the position, which was virtually none as compared to other college prospects who attend elite camps starting in middle school and specialize in the position throughout high school and college all the while getting dedicated coaching at the position and all it entails. Scouts knew Allen had none of that and that it would take a time investment to get him up to speed at the position. How much time it would take was the only question and it was just a matter of when not if he would be a star. The scouting community was quite unanimous in its evaluation, despite what less informed talking heads would have us believe.

Don’t tell me you’re actually one of the dots!

Then you don’t know Dunkirk Don.

Nobody and I mean nobody in the personnel business who actually do this for a living in the NFL had an expectation that Allen would be a bust. Indeed, the scouting reports were spot on. The bust narrative was a fabricated theme generated by uninformed talking head pundits who don’t have the resources to do the due diligence required to make informed analysis.

Can you link me to all of your posts pounding the table for those players at the time? Hindsight GMing is the easiest job in the world.

Was the rest of Allen golfing as well, or just his elbow?

By my count, the Bills have had 38 players voted 1st Team All Pro 68 times. Pardon me for not listing them all.

Because we got our asses handed to us it was much easier for me to accept and much easier to flush out of the system. It wasn’t our day, we were never in contention, so tip of the hat to a better team. We had KC beat and gave it away. Gave. It. Away. That’s just so much harder to accept.

And Josh Allen would be the first to admit that as he is his own worst critic. But his criticism would he informed and full of context. Talking head pundits? Not so much.

That teacher missed a golden teaching opportunity and really let your son and his classmates down in the process.

Yeah, I hadn’t seen his earlier troll attempts otherwise I wouldn’t have responded to him at all previously. I can’t believe the clueless trash about Allen that he offers up.

Your point was that the Bills are “singularly dependent” on Josh Allen. I merely pointed out that other teams are “singularly dependent” on their QBs as well. If you were gonna make a different point about building the pieces around him, then perhaps you should have been more articulate in making it in the first place.

Right. Removing Burrow or Mahomes and those teams wouldn’t miss a beat. EVERY team with a franchise QB is “singularly dependent” on them. Great receivers and great OLs just can’t do much without them. Josh is not unique in that regard in the least.

Agree entirely. The Bengals D, especially their very average secondary, had a day off against Huntley.

Are the Bengals “singularly player dependent” on Burrow? The Chiefs on Mahomes? Given our strengths in other areas, I could make the case that their teams are even more “singularly dependent” on them.

Funny how Josh isn’t reckless when he hits those deep shots in tight game situations. He attempts those passes for a simple reason: because those plays are there to be made and he is supremely confident that he and his receivers can make them. I have no problem with that.

There’s a reason why we led the NFL in 3rd down conversion rate and that is because we are usually in manageable down and distance situations.

That 8th man in coverage, especially when you have LBs that can move, can really complicate things for QBs and receivers. We have LBs that can move so I’d love to see us do that vs. the Bengals at times.

Yeah, fruitless is the wrong word. More like pointless.

He’s right. Most adjustments are made while the game is in progress. Coaches and players aren’t on the sidelines pouring over all those still photos and replays on their tablets for nothing. I guarantee Manning made countless adjustments during his career, just not at halftime.

The next time PFF convinces me of anything football related will be the first time.

GOAT discussions of any kind on any subject, while entertaining, are utterly fruitless. All the greats in any subject may have a seat at the table. And it’s a round table.

No, my respect for him won’t change in the least. Just because we were his B word for 20 years, doesn’t mean I don’t have great respect for him as a player. That respect has been there a long time and I don’t understand at all how a person can go from no respect to respect just because he retires. That makes zero sense to me.