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I’ll just say this, teams and their coaches evaluate game film completely differently than the 60 “graders” employed by PFF. And perhaps the biggest difference is that teams have multiple dedicated evaluators, per position group, on both sides of the ball evaluating every play with the full context of each play in each game situation, vs. that single person at PFF evaluating every player at every position and operating without much context, if any at all.

When I look at the pre-construction renderings of Hotspur stadium and compare them to the final product, I’m not convinced that our new stadium won’t also cover much more of the seating.

NJ Giants. 😂 And they will no longer claim NY as their home. 😂

As I said last week the sheer enormity of the task and the time constraints involved don’t lend itself to quality work. PFF has around 60 graders according to their own website. Given an average of 60 plays per team per game on each side of the ball, those 60 people have to analyze over 84,400 individual player snaps each week. As a result, I just can’t take their analyses with anything less than a huge boulder of salt.

Hey, if a retractable canopy was enough for the Roman Coliseum, I see no reason why it wouldn’t be for our stadium.

There is no such thing as “smooth sailing” when it comes to this kind of rehab. There are always peaks, valleys, and plateaus. Always. All the Bills have ever said is he is “on schedule” and if the Bills, in their response to the incessant questions about Tre and his recovery, somehow created an unrealistic expectation among the fan base, then that’s on us as fans who have defined what “on schedule” should mean based on arbitrary sources of information from those not privy to the only information that matters.

Removing the red jersey and allowing him to participate fully in practice does not suggest a “set back” in his recovery. Wanting to see a full week of full participation in practice while maximizing roster flexibility vis a vis his current PUP status makes a lot of sense.

You miss the intent of my post which was to simply point out that if we can attribute the success of our younger secondary to a dominant front four, then we should also realize that we have had top rated pass defenses without a dominant D line in the past. Hyde, Poyer, Tre, etc. have all made past D lines look good because of their superior play in the secondary. Nothing unreasonable in considering the future costs associated with retaining players and I agree it’s an important consideration moving forward.

What about those seasons when we had a top pass defense without that dominant line? Did our veteran secondary make those non dominant D lines look better?

Is this the extent of your understanding of how various players can impact games? Because if it is, then I think you have a lot to learn. For instance, how many game changing plays has Hyde made by changing a QB’s pre or post snap decision? How many routes has he altered? How many times has an offense had to settle for less simply because Hyde didn’t give it any thing more? Players like Hyde impact games in numerous ways that don’t show up on a stat sheet.

Is there a podcast available with wailing Pats*** homers?

Judon is a dirty prick of a player. Always has been.

I think you’re right so henceforth I shall refrain from ever referring to Tom Brady’s camel toe.

I got the info about when the numbers are finalized right off their website. If I misunderstood, my apologies. Regardless, it’s a yeoman’s task for one person to thoroughly analyze over 1,400 plays so quickly. Anyway, here’s where I saw the reference to finalizing numbers on Monday. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-week-6-highlights-pff-grades-2022 I’m sure he does the best he can, but I take everything they do with a boulder of salt.

I’ve always been leery of PFF’s processes and proclamations simply due to the sheer enormity of the task. According to their website, only 10% of their 600 employees are qualified to do grading of players each game, so around 60 graders in total. There are an average of 60 plays per game on both sides of the ball; 60 offensive snaps, 60 defensive snaps, 120 snaps total on average per game. 120 plays multiplied by 22 players per play equals 2640 individual player snaps per game per team which equals 84,480 individual player snaps each week. 84,480 divided by 60 PFF graders equals 1,408 individual player snaps to grade each week. They claim to have numbers finalized on Mondays. Color me skeptical that anyone can thoroughly analyze 1,408 individual player snaps in less than a day.

Leading up to that draft there were stories about Allen’s recall abilities and how he was wowing teams on the white board. But we hear these things about guys every year it seems so we don’t give it much thought. But a couple months ago Tasker was relaying a story Daboll told him about Josh while at the combine. Daboll said that there were about twenty Bills’ staff members in the room when Josh came in for his combine interview. All of them introduced themselves to Allen and then it was 15 minutes of breaking down plays on the whiteboard along with some chit chat, etc. At the end of the meeting, Daboll asked Josh to recall as many names of the people he met when he first walked in and Allen remembered them all. Daboll said he’d never seen anything like that. I was amazed hearing that. But it explains so much about why Allen has developed as a QB like he has.

“That’s a bad white boy.” 😂 Gotta love uncle Charlie.

😄 Thanks for the clarification and apologies for any confusion. Now that we are in agreement, I’ve removed the disagreement emoji.

You seem hung up on the stature as the only point in my argument and you’re making an unfair comparison here. For instance, Los Alamitos high school has over 3,000 students compared to just over 600 for Firebaugh. It’s a football powerhouse by comparison. Same with Pittsburg High school in CA. And while Maize high school is smaller, it still has nearly twice as man students as Firebaugh and is a highly ranked program in Kansas. So while all three of your examples are similar in size, none of them play for obscure little high school programs in their state. If any of them played for Firebaugh, would they have garnered the same interest? I doubt it.

Josh himself has alluded to his small stature in high school as well as playing for at a small school as among the reasons he suspects he wasn’t recruited. Yes, lots of 6’3” prospects get recruited, but not from smaller high schools with smaller programs playing lesser competition. Especially in huge football states like CA.

He was a skinny, 6’3” high school QB from a small school that played lower level competition who didn’t attend elite QB camps since middle school. Those players simply don’t attract much attention. Especially in CA. It’s no surprise he wasn’t recruited by any D-1 school, let alone a power 5 school.

Yep. Lotta hype after his 2016 college season. Glad he chose to stay in school.

Took Elway 10 years to reach the mythical and arbitrary 60% level. Cue up the “it wasn’t a passing league back then” responses.

Media types simply can’t and don’t put in the work. They tend to watch videos, look at stats, and make proclamations. I’m not surprised that Kiper liked him. He probably has the best connections to the pro scouting community, either directly or indirectly, of any draft pundit out there.