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True. But the hospital report and rape kit results that show something bad happened to that girl are real facts nonetheless.

So you have to be a Bills fan to accept the DA report? You have to be a Bills fan to realize that Araiza was falsely accused and deserves a second chance? People who don’t know the first thing about the Bills and the NFL can sympathize with a young man falsely accused and harmed by the accusation. People have been falsely accused of and pilloried for far worse only to be forgiven by the populace that believed it initially. Have a little faith in your fellow citizens.

I agree that her having sexual intercourse with multiple partners that night may have indeed been consensual, but her wounds certainly suggest it got out of hand given the trauma observed during her examination. Do you dismiss the hospital report and published rape kit results? How could she lie about that?

He’s gonna get second chances once the legal issues are resolved. Does this forum, this thread, represent the opinions of the populace? If so, and I think it does, he will be exonerated by a majority portion of the populace who realize he was wrongly accused of participating in a gang rape. I submit that will be the preponderant narrative going forward. We’ll see.

Certainly his career has been put on hold, but we can’t yet say it’s been ruined forever. Given the DA’s report, there’s good reason for him to be hopeful once the civil suit is either dropped or resolved.

As it pertains to the defendants in the civil case yes, absolutely. My only point she didn’t seem to lie about going thru a traumatic sexual assault given the hospital report and rape kit results released by the SDPD.

And it was due process that ultimately proved Araiza wasn’t present at the time of the alleged gang rape.

As it pertains to Matt Araiza, her lawyer’s best financial target in a civil case, absolutely. The exculpatory evidence showing he wasn't even there at the time of the alleged gang rape cannot be denied and I hope the accuser’s lawyer has the good sense to drop the case against him as, even though the bar for conviction in a civil proceeding is much much lower, the DA’s report makes it a very high hurdle imo. But I don’t think she was lying about the hospital visit, treatment for bruises, bleeding from her *****, the rape kit exam, and the results of that rape kit test released by the SDPD that showed the presence of DNA from multiple sources. Not even her lawyer, whom I blame entirely for the untruths put forth by her, could bull#### that aspect of the story.

Your crusade is getting old. Good luck tilting at those windmills.

No, they didn’t. Because nobody knew whether the allegations were false or not at the time.

Speaking of which, given the amount of exculpatory evidence just furnished for use by his defense attorney, I’m surprised we haven’t heard anything from the plaintiff’s lawyer yet. He couldn’t keep his mouth shut previously. I look for him to drop the case against Araiza soon.

If I were him, I’d sign with the team that presents the best opportunity. Given our situation with Martin, that’s probably not in Buffalo. But stranger things have happened, that’s for sure.

That’s all well and good, but he’s a free agent at the moment, regardless.

He’s free to sign with any team as he has been since the Bills waived him. We don’t hold any exclusive rights so he’s not ours for the league to give back.

It was never up to him to prove his innocence; it was up to the accuser to prove his guilt.

“It is time for you to go.”

Marion Motley

I keep Greg Mancz on the team just for that alone.

And with his freakishly long arms for a man of his height (just a half inch shorter than Edmunds) he might be very good in pass coverage.

Scouts and other talent evaluators place a high priority on production, perhaps the highest priority, especially when it matches the athleticism. Like you, I hadn’t had a chance to watch much video of Williams, but the little I’ve seen tells me why Beane and Co. liked him. He is not Terrell Bernard 2.0 by any stretch. He’s much more physical for starters and seems to have a more instinctive feel for the game. I won’t be surprised if he turns out to be one of the steals in this draft.

But first it was Wang who got Wood because of Levitre.

Quinnen Williams for me.

I haven’t bothered to read all seven pages, only the two posts of yours that I’ve responded to. Your OP points out the lack success past 1st round TEs have had, which is fine. But then you seem to want to use that to somehow shade the selection of Kincaid, when it’s simply not relevant in the least. The Bills/Kincaid situation is unique, as were the situations of every other TE selected in the first round. I’ll leave you to continue the debate with others, but I have nothing more to say on this particular aspect discussion.