White Linen

I don't get it, on a one year deal he can lose money if he isn't signed for next year?

I was just about to post that. In that picture it's first and ten too. No need to choose the route he went with.

Not when it's first and ten

The only way he's going anywhere is if he becomes a guy that doesn't want to play here. Kyle is at the back end of his career and it's a brutal position. I could see us letting him go if we drafted a player a year or two ago and he looks like he could value for value fill in the gap, but that's not happened.

The only sense of positive attitude I get is from the defense. I give that credit to Schwartz and the leaders on that side of the ball. The offense to me shows very little togetherness and it doesn't appear they are enjoying playing together and I don't blame them. The play calling, offensive line play, and lack of any semblance of a running game is owned by Marrone.

Or they knew Johnny was BS.

How could we pass on such an amazing talent.

Merry Christmas.

You're clearly not smart enough for me to talk to, bye.

Oh absolutely I was just kidding too. Nothing personal here. Of course it makes sense the WR's would pick Cutler and that's the situation. Does a guy like Cutler give you a better chance to win or a guy like Alex Smith? It's a fun debate, but it certainly is a debate. It's not what Greggy is saying.

If you were saying Cutler is better but is it significantly enough to take on his contract? Then everyone could take you more seriously.

How the hell can anyone contextualize it if you won't admit the basic premise and why would you bother. Why bring up the contract when you simply should just say Orton is better? And whoever you believe that to be is correct. Got it.

You mean it wouldn't be as good of a hypothetical as asking Bills fans who the better QB is?

No you're wanting to look at the totality of the situation and not the simple fact Cutler is better than Orton. You are denying it and then wanting to bring up contract information, which is valid but has nothing to do with comparing only the QB's skills.

So in a poll given to NFL wide receivers they overwhelmingly say I want Orton throwing to me over Cutler?

So Orton is the clear better QB over Cutler because you said so? What do you think an outside poll of non Bills and Bears fans would say? What do you think most commentators and/or experts would say? You feel most would say the Bills downgraded at QB for trading for Jay Cutler - if it were to happen? Howard Simon is on the radio right now saying Cutler is a clear upgrade of Orton.

The stupid Bills. When will they ever learn how to put together a roster?

The truth of the matter is we fans really don't have enough information to evaluate Marrone. Even if we we're privy to being at every practice and hear every word he says - that information is still subjective in terms of effect. IMO because we don't know much - he has to be judged on the only provable thing, wins and loses.

With respect I don't think many are falling in love. I personally just recognize that we have to get a better at the position and the options are extremely limited. We can't go young and we can't go with Orton. So because of the crux we're in it's either someone like Cutler or EJ has to be the guy.

To me his confidence was shot. I don't think the coaches did him any favors in that regard either. He looked lost, the offense was so vanilla so clearly the coaches didn't have confidence in him, and oh by the way don't you dare run - ever.

I can certainly understand anyone's trepidation with Cutler. He's loaded with talent but is clearly not right in the head. He's the type of guy when the going gets tough he gets going. However we're already in that situation, where we don't have a QB that can win the game, but we have a defense that doesn't often put the QB in that situation. So if we had someone that could put up points and allow our defense to play with a lead it could work. I doubt there's much we can do beyond Cutler that makes sense and I see it has a huge long shot that we get that done. So my hope is EJ becomes the guy which is something most people have completely given up on, but I'm holding onto hope.

But that's just it he's not 5-9 with us, but he is with them and they are a terrible team. You don't understand at all why folks would think Cutler is an upgrade over Orton - just comparing the two QB's?

Maybe I can make it simpler for you. Do we win more games with Cutler or do they win more games with Orton, right now?

I totally understand what you're saying but I think we can agree our team is ready to win now. Our options our likely to be very limited to upgrade the QB position. I think most would agree that it's the QB position that's keeping us from being a playoff team (which of course we're still not out of), but i'm sure you understand what I mean. I'm not in love with Cutler but given our limited options unfortunately we have to explore this. How would you feel about Orton and EJ fighting for the job next year?

Incest is something unspeakable and hurtful to many people. I'd prefer if you would refrain from saying it.