OldTimer1960

Oh, we aren’t worried about missing the next installment of your award winning series.

The concern over his height is warranted as there have been few successful NFL QBs af this height (as you stated), but I think that his apparent drive and attitude will allow him to overcome the odds. All of these QBs have some questions- I’d be very happy to have the Bills give him his chance.

Agreed. He is quite young, adjusting for mostly missing rookie season, he is really just after his rookie season. Bills fans don’t need to look past our own roster (Jerry Hughes) to find an example of a player who took more than a season to develop. Lawson may never be a great pass rusher, but he may become a very good run defender/decent pass rusher - think of a guy like Chris Kelsey. Now, Kelsey was a very good player for the Bills, though many here didn’t like him because he didn’t lead the league in sacks.

That is GREAT!

To be sure, I think that Rosen is better right now than Allen is. But, I could see why a team might love Allen’s physical gifts and forgive his collegiate shortcomings due to a weak supporting cast. Who will be better in the NFL? I don’t think it is clear cut. Me, I think that Mayfield’s competitiveness may overcome his physical shortcomings and allow him to excel.

You are right, too bad that McDermott and Beane didn’t know much about him before offering him that money... id like to believe that both would know exactly how they want to use Lotulelei and would offer him $ appropriate for that role.

So his 4 years of great play in college don’t matter? Maybe businesses should only hire high school valedictorians.

His supporting cast is what mitigates the competition level. If you believe that a QB’s supporting cast influences his performance (pretty obvious), then you can at least wonder if Allen could be really good in the NFL. He was running for his life and had limited talent at receiver and RB. Does that mean that he may be very good in NFL? Not necessarily, but he does have the physical talent to be picked high.

By those that don’t understand that all picks are risky. I could understand why they might be enticed by his physical talent. It happens at all other positions as well.

Better his whole life is fuzzy. Rosen was better only in that he was more highly recruited coming out of HS.

+1 But those 3 picks left over are more lottery tickets than vouchers guaranteeing good players. Not or saying it would necessarily be a bad plan, but leaving a draft in which you had 5 picks in the top 65 and 6 in top 100 with only 2 players would be tough to accept. Still, I accept that trading up for a QB will cost at least both firsts and likely at least one 2nd.

He really isn’t. There are some who think that his raw talent warrants a very high pick. This is is not a cut and dried, no debate situation.

Agreed. Irrelevant. So are you saying that teams should draft 5 star recruits over players that did well in college?

I respect Taylor, but he did not set a high bar to exceed. i am not sure that I want them to draft Lamar Jackson, but i think he is already better than Taylor and he might get better.

I *could* imagine that they may end up at 12, if the price to trade up is too steep or if all of the QBs that they rate highest go very early. if they stay at 12, there is a reasonable chance that Mayfield or Allen (or both) are available there. Now, to be clear I would like them to trade up even if it would be for Mayfield or Allen,just to be sure they get who they want most. Still, I can’t understand why Mason Rudolph is not a possiblility in round 1 - great production, multi-year starter and reportedly showed very good knowledge of offenses in interviews. I know that many would be shocked and disappointed if they took Rudolph at 12, but I could understand if they did. I think he is very underrated for reasons that I don’t understand.

Absolutely true. Until they take a QB first overall and they find out that he is much better than Taylor when he gets off the bus.

It is still VERY early in FA. I’d love to have either or both of Gaines and Brown back, but I would not count on the market for them being so bad that the Bills can afford them.

Ihave been a draft fanatic for 3 decades, but IMHO, making decisions to not retain a good player solely on the basis of hoping to get a pick that at best will be around pick 100 is a poor strategy. Of course, you have to balance the FA value/cost against the hope for a mid late round compensatory pick, but the decision should not be based on the low-end “draft capital” that could be received.

So? If he can play well (or even not), who cares?

Yes, please. I don’t are about picks at the end of the 4th(at best), 5th,6th,7th rounds in exchange for losing productive NFL players. Those late picks are mostly in consequential. None of the Bills’ current FA are going to fetch even a pick at the end of the 4th. Better off signing FAs this season.

I would be very happy if the Bills can get Mayfield, Darnold or Rosen. I could find my way to accepting Jackson or Allen. i think that Rudolph and White are likely out of the question now as it looks like they are moving up further to get one of the top guys, but I like what I've seen from both.

If you don't understand that every year there are several 1st round draft picks that don't become superstars, then you are not well informed. No team has been immune to having selected players in round one who turn out to be mediocre or worse.

She is getting old

I think Brissett has some potential, but if they are trading up for their QB - giving up a lot of draft pick value, then I think they would be hard-pressed to use even one more pick on a QB, unless they thought he could be a quality long-term backup.

It is possible