OldTimer1960

I agree, but while his upside could be pretty high, he (Walker) has quite a way to go to get there.

You’re argument makes a lot of sense, but they might really regret spending that pick on him. I just can’t get over his inability to get open consistently.

Walker has great size and speed, but the Senior Bowl showed that he isn’t able to compete well with the big boys - maybe he can improve.

I think we could say that KC just won the SB without a true #1. What exactly make a WR a Wr1? Is it the receiver that gets the most targets? Does he have to play the boundary? Can he be a “move” receiver who sometimes is out wide? Can he play predominantly in the slot? I get the idea that you want a receiver whom defenses have to pay extra attention to to free up other receivers and that WR1 is the “go to” guy.

Just playing devils advocate- I don’t think Miami and its prolific offense have that big boundary receiver. I’m not saying that the Bills shouldn’t try to find one, but I think there are successful offenses that don’t have that.

Gunner: you should do a pod cast! Your analysis is great and you clearly know what you’re talking about.

If that’s true, I would expect them to stay from Mitchell. However, I am old enough to remember Dan Marino free falling in the draft due to rumors that he used cocaine regularly - and that was untrue.

I believe that Beane made the moves that he did because he saw that that roster had peaked and was fading and to fix the cap. The Diggs trade may not have been planned, but rather forced by team dynamics. Anyway, I think that Beane knows that this roster isn’t championship quality this year. He will do what he can to put a good team on the field, but as I see it, the Bills’ D is paper thin and would need a miraculously injury free season to have any shot this year. I don’t think even the acquisition of Harrison Jr would change that and giving away next year’s 1st and 2nd at significant discount in trade this year would rob them of the picks they need to fix the defense. I just don’t see any big trade giving away early picks next year as a good option. About the most I would consider would be a trade of one of next year’s 2nd round picks - and I don’t like that idea very much, but it would at least leave them with a full hand of picks for 2025.

This would be a really good player at pick 28 - probably a considerably better prospect than the wr they are considering

That’s true, but just grabbing the 4th QB does not necessarily solve the problem. They need to be sure that McCarthy or Penix or Nix are any better than Jones plus if they grab a rookie QB they still don’t have any receivers - maybe could get one in 2nd.

Agree - and I would add don’t trade 2025 picks at a discount this year. There will be holes in this team, this is not the year to “go all in” and trade future picks.

I think the answer is that you can’t expect to fill all of those needs in this draft. Just get good players at important positions.

I agree with you. One of the linked posts said late first/early 2nd. It was Garafolo’s post.

Of course that has no bearing on whether he will be or not.

Kneeland is a late first/early 2nd guy?

I think the cap savings from Tre are needed for signing the rookies.

You really want to count on Miller? He *might* be better this year, but I wouldn’t count on that. Really, that can sink their season as easily as wr can.

They do have too many needs - and I don’t think it is realistic that they will fill them all in this draft. For all the talk of owning “so many picks”, they only have 2 of the first 127 picks. My view has changed to finding the best players they can at important positions and just expect to have some unmet needs this year. If that means the first two picks are WR because they are the best players, so be it. I would put pass rush up there with WR. If Miller is no better than he was last year the that important position will be split between Epenesa and Toohill.

It seems to me that McConkey and Worthy have relatively high floors. McConkey should be a reliable player who is frequently open, even if he isn’t a major deep threat. Worthy seems certain to be at least a dangerous weapon deep, but may not have the bulk or hands to be a consistent chain mover. Mitchell and Coleman seem to have more bust potential. Mitchell because of alleged effort issues and Coleman trying to get open in the league. Franklin just scares me after the combine- he looked a lot smoother and a better route runner in games than at the combine.

This is the scenario that I was thinking of upstream when I talked about being open to after round 1. There is no question in my mind that there are at least a dozen receivers who could help the Bills given the state of the receiver group. They need someone to play the boundary for sure as all they currently have is a complete unknown in Justin Shorter, but they als need someone who gets open consistently since they lost that guy (Diggs). They don’t have to solve both needs with one pick. However, if you dismiss the mostly slot guys McConkey, Wilson, Pearsall, Corley, the receiver depth is shallower than the hype.

I’m not excited about Franklin in round 1, but he certainly makes sense in round 2.

After the top 3 and Thomas Jr, I think Mitchell is probably the next guy, but I will admit that I really like McConkey, too. After them, I think we fans really need to be open to guys that have been characterized as mostly slot guys. If they aren’t open to guys like Pearsall and Wilson then the “deep pool of WRs” gets a lot shallower. Just get good football players at important positions - don’t reach for need.

I agree that a pass rusher is of the utmost importance, I just don’t see how you get one in this draft if they go WR in the first. Once you get past Dallas Turner, Jared Verse, Latu and Chop Robinson the pickings are pretty slim for a true DE (there are some 3-4 OLBs, but they don’t help Buffalo). By pick 60, your looking at Austin Booker, Braden Trice and Adisa Isaac - Booker and Isaac have some pass rush potential, but probably need to add considerable muscle before being ready to contribute. I can imagine them liking Trice with his high-effort approach, but it’s possible all 3 of them are gone by 60 as well.

I’m not a big Coleman advocate either, but I think it’s inaccurate to say he has been unproductive. 108 receptions and 18 TDs over the last two seasons against high level competition with less than stellar QB play isn’t bad.

I really like Chop Robinson. He has every athletic trait you could want with the exception of having longer arms. He does need to develop more pass rush moves, but similar can be said about any WR the team can expect to find available at 28 with the exception of McConkey and probably Mitchell and Pearsall. I know that any player except a WR in the first round will be hugely unpopular with many fans, but it is more a hope and prayer that Miller will be able to give the team much than it is an expectation, so pass rush is a huge need as is WR. How about Jehrzan Newton?