OldTimer1960

How did the Bills get pick 73? Never mind, I understand now. Too early to think right…

Has any news about his (Revel’s) injury status come out? I think it’s tough to expect much from him for this upcoming season if he won’t be cleared until September or October. Clearly has top talent, if speed and explosiveness are still there after recovery, but he won’t have played football for a full year and could miss a lot of camp and it’s a big step up from East Carolina. I could be convinced it’s a long-term investment worth making, but if they have no fallback plan at CB it seems pretty risky to count on him for 2025 season.

I think you’re over-optimistic that any of them make it to 56 - maybe Morrison or Revel slide because of their injuries, but if they aren’t healthy it won’t help the Bills this season.

True that not every need will be met, but Jackson/Ingram starting at CB would be a gaping hole that opponents will attack frequently.

Unless it is after the 4th, a fast guy who doesn’t catch well is not very interesting.

Round 1 - Kincaid will be a multi-year starter Round 2 - likely to me that at least 1 of Coleman and Bishop end up starters for 2 or more years. Round 3 - Singletary and Knox would count as multi-year starters i agree that Beane has done well and I think the stats will look even better than you stated. Trading future picks for current year picks at a full round discount is not good business unless you are absolutely sure that the guy you get this year is going to be very good. That’s only my opinion, but it is basically buying on credit with steep interest.

I have seen no scouting service rate Burch anywhere near the first round and what I've seen of him (to my unqualified eye) is aligned. What do you see besides a big fast guy? I see the size and speed - maybe he is OK late 2nd where we are talking about him now, but I don't think he warrants going much before this spot (at best).

That may be what they’ll do. - we’ll see in a few weeks. For me, it’s risky, but I’m risk-averse. In the end, they are looking at 34 yo Daquan Jones starting at DT with no obvious backup and Dane Jackson starting at CB with no great backup. Both are big holes. They need a DE for next year, but could live this year without drafting one if it comes down to that. They could really use an upgrade at WR, but they did have a high scoring offense last year with essentially the group they currently have.

That’s rough, but pick 62 is very late 2nd round, so not very surprising.

Agree that Amos is not a “first round talent”, but there are only maybe 15-20 in this draft that are. I’ve read that some teams love Nolan and others have him as a 3rd rounder - so a wide range of opinions. If there is any truth to the rumor that he isn’t particularly motivated then the Bills will stay away from Nolan. Note that I am not saying that the rumors are true (or untrue).

Your assumption that Porter will be available at 56 is very risky. Who is playing CB if Porter is gone? I don’t like how the board fell in this scenario and it is a big quandary. For me, if Harmon or Grant are available at 30, I might nab them and try to get a CB, but they might miss out completely on CB then. I hope that the way this fell is because we’ve all been talking almost exclusively about players the Bills could use and that influenced the picks. If that isn’t true, I think they need to trade up from 56 to be able to get both DT and CB. I don’t want to give up the other 2nd or even the 4ths but they might have to.

If the board falls that way, trading down is a bit attractive but I might be more inclined to trade back from 30 - I don’t think there is much difference in who the Bills would pick (in terms of grades) between 30 and about 40. Another option would be to package a couple of the 5ths with 109 to move up to late 3rd - or 132 & 169 & 170 to move towards to pf round 4?

I would not do that trade either, but I think a late 2nd this year is about what the Bills’ 2026 first would get in trade.

Bond worries me both in terms of the character rumors and that he was ineffective late season and in the playoffs, but I understand that he had a bad ankle. The team does need speed and he has that (and quickness as well). I would have much rather taken help for the defense, but I don’t see much left there. i know nobody wants a RB, but Judkins would bring a power element and ability to grind out yards/close out games that would help the defense by keeping them off the field.

Aren’t you arguing that drafting a CB first for need means they won’t get a DT that they need? Might not have a chance to get West or even Caldwell a round and a half from here.

I understand your conclusion, but they have other chances to meet players as well. That doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but I would hope that they would look at CBs even if they planned to sign a veteran.

Just about every team drafts for need to some level. The Bills are tight on cap space and they have leveraged a number of contracts to create current cap space. Almost any team who has a top CB is going to have to count on cheap rookie contracts for some positions. I’m sure Beane doesn’t like being in position to be forced to fill holes - he has said as much on many occasions.

At this point they should be looking for someone who can be a decent starter or good rotational player. Should not reach too far for a run stopping DT - what’s left looks like marginal value at DT unless they would consider a smaller penetrating guy like Norman-Lott. Don’t love the DEs left either, but Tuimoloau and Burch have solid floors at least. Open to most any position if there is a good prospect there.

I think this is fairly likely, too. I think they can get about the same level prospect 10 spots later as they can get at 30.

I agree that it depends on what the concerns are, but if the issues are motivation and effort I think that’s a big deal. If the issues are that the guy is a jerk, then that’s less concerning but still a concern.

I think in this weak WR class we are so desperate to find a WR that we are seeing these guys as better than they are.

I’m not disagreeing with the strategy, but the CB class this year is not as good as last year’s and DeJean was pick 40 - far earlier than 56. Also, Philly already had their DL in place.

Underrated: Rousseau- I think he is a very good all around DE. Spencer Brown, too. Just a year or so ago the TBD pitchforks were out for him. overrated: I don’t have vote here - we are pretty tough fans to please. Honorable mention to the annual pre-season WR hero.

With you on most of this, but the whispers of character issues with Nolan may be real (we won’t know what the team does). I agree Nolan is more talented than Amos (imho).

Maybe, but I’d feel a lot better getting one by 62. It’s a loooong way from 62 to 109.