OldTimer1960

The CBs on the roster currently comprise 1 4th round pick (Taron Johnson), 1 6th round pick (Benford), 1 7th round pick (Dane Jackson) and two undrafted guys (Cam Lewis and Jamarcus Ingram). They currently have NOBODY who could be a credible season opening starter.

Don't think he will make it to round 3. I don't think he will even be available at the Bills' first 2nd round pick.

He is going to need to be paid BIG after 2026 and may be unhappy if he isn't paid after this season. I don't expect that the Jags would take pick 30 for him, either.

That floor is a dirt floor. I'm happy to have Dane Jackson back as depth/competing for a spot, but if he is starting on a defense that hopes to be a Super Bowl contender then it's a disaster.

Almost HAS to happen. Worst way to enter draft is with a dire need for a starter at a given position - especially a position that isn’t great in the draft.

Just watched Deone Walker vs. Georgia and he is big. I don't think that he is the power player that you would guess based on his height and weight. The Georgia OGs pushed him around some. He has mass, but not much of it is in his lower-half which is where most power comes from and he is so tall that blockers often can get leverage on him. I saw some plays where he had success using his long-arms to keep blockers away from his body, but I don't think that was very often. He also did block a pass at the LOS - his height and arm length can be useful for clogging passing lanes. To be clear, I consider myself a fan, not a draft expert though I have followed the draft obsessively since the mid-80s. Thoughts/opinions on Walker? To me, he isn't what the Bills' need, but certainly I could be wrong.

Well, little doubt there!

Neither has much speed for CB. Now, can they be successful in a zone scheme? Yes maybe they can, but lack of speed is a problem in man coverage. It’s not just that he is an older candidate, he also doesn’t have a ton of experience at the position. Height, weight, speed and played well last year- he’s a prospect, but might not be who you want if you’re counting on him to start/play a lot this year.

Trading down 2 spots is only worth about a mid-5th.

And there is the rub- staying out of trouble. That 100 m.p.h. debacle shows gross immaturity. We can't know what the teams have learned about draft candidate's intelligence, work ethic and character - teams invest a lot looking into this stuff. Maybe teams knew that Rice was a risk on character/decision making and that's why he slid to KC. When he has been on the field, he has produced, but like with Marcel Darius talent alone doesn't always win.

Spot on, but these flames are fanned every year on local sport talk radio proclaiming that the "Bills have a lot of draft capital to move all around the board". They actually don't have very much as, other than the fairly early pick in the 4th they got in trade last year all of their picks sit at the back end of each round and they are completely missing a 3rd round pick. For example, according to the Draftek draft trade chart all of the Bills' picks combined are not worth as much as the Jets' 1st round pick.

I don't see how they have enough draft capital to move up for two 3rds. Their later 4th and ALL 3 5ths would get them to about pick 98 - a compensatory pick after the 3rd round (that ends at pick 96). After that move, they would still then have only pick 108 (early portion of the 4th) and pick 206 (late 6th). Here is a link to a draft pick trade value chart. It is approximate of course as teams are free to make whatever deals they want, but it gives a pretty good idea of what the value of the Bills' picks are. Go to HTTPS://www.draftek.com and at the top there is a tab that takes you to the draft pick value chart. There are, of course, other similar charts that can be found - all fairly similar (at least that I've seen).

He was playing on a bad knee last year. I do agree that he needs to get stronger and I believe the Bills told him that. I don't want to be too critical of the Kincaid pick - I was excited when they made it, but Kincaid and Kaiir Elam are examples of why I don't want the Bills to trade up in round 1. They are sitting late in the round where you're doing well to get a good solid starter and jumping up 4-5 spots isn't going to change that outlook very much.

That would be great, but I don't think Emmanwori, Hairston, Knight or Alexander will be around for any of those picks. Other than Knight, I don't think Emmanwori, Hairston or Alexander even make it to the Bills first 2nd round pick.

OK, I guess. I don't dislike Landon Jackson, but I'm not excited for him at the end of the first. I would like for the Bills to trade down out of the first maybe 10-15 spots and throw in their later 4th round pick and end up with 3 2nds and a mid-3rd while retaining their early 4th. I think the pickings will be similar between pick 30 and 40-45 - they could still take a CB, DE or possibly still have their pick of 1T at 40-45.

That is viable, but recognize that a 2026 2nd will be valued as a late 3rd by the trade partner. Unless there is a stone-cold lock guy sitting there I would be extremely cautious of trading future picks as they go at a full round discount.

Here is what their “draft capital” will buy in terms of trading up from both 2nds: Both 4th rounders plus pick 56 would move them up 11-12 spots to pick 44 or 45. All 3 5ths plus pick 62 would move them up to about 7 or 8 spots to 54 or 55. That would leave them with no picks again until late round 6.

Where did the idea that Tyleik Williams is a pass rush threat come from? I’ve only watched a few of his games all the way through and my untrained eyes see a strong run defending 1T, but not much of a pass rusher.

I agree that they probably won’t take a WR before round 4, but not because they are locked into Coleman and Palmer starting. Rather, I think the needs at CB, DT are so glaring and DE is a very premium position and they almost certainly have Bosa only for next year. I do think that they would love to get a WR that could be a starting caliber player - Coleman and Palmer are at best unproven - problem is that they have no viable option to start at CB opposite Benford and they also have very suspect depth at corner. I will be a little surprised if they don’t take 2 CBs in this draft.

Where are the subwoofers?🤓 Kincaid caught 44 passes last year while playing hurt and people complain- and you want to trade him for little to draft a WR who hasn’t caught 44 passes in the last two seasons?

A 2026 2nd and 5th would only move you from pick 30 to about pick 23 (where GB is). 2026 picks are generally discounted by a round as the team receiving the pick has to wait a year to exercise it. Further, teams will assume that the Bills are going to be picking late. Caldwell is pretty quick for his size.

Hi Gunner, who in this DT class is a good match with Oliver? I imagine that the list is a fairly small subset of this touted DT class. I’m thinking Grant, Collins, Harmon, Nolan, Alexander, Williams, Farmer, Phillips, Pegues, Caldwell and maybe West.

If they take another position (say DT, DE or WR), what ammo do they really have to move up in the 2nd? Packaging the earlier of their 2 2nds with the earlier of their 2 4ths only moves them up 7-8 spots in the 2nd. If they do that it will be 70 picks between their othe 2nd and their next pick. I’m not crazy about waiting 2+ rounds in a still decent part of the draft. I think they are kinda stuck with the dearth of talent they currently have on their roster at CB. It looks to me like they are going to have to reach for a CB at 30 or trade back from 30 and still take a CB, unless they are happy really getting only 3 players in the top 130.

Interesting. Was he recovering from an injury last year? He had only 1 start. According to Wikipedia, he started at C for the Steelers as a rookie, moved to G the next year and was a backup. Traded to Texans for a 6th then got hurt. Did not see much action last year for Texans.

Would love to get Collins, Walker not so much.