OldTimer1960

Welp they have their pick now.

How serious are the injury concerns with Will Johnson?

I fear a run on corners starts about now.

Surprised they did not go CB

Still 11 picks before Bills

He might be, it’s the incomplete picture of his athleticism that is concerning. If they stick at 30 or trade up just a little and take him, I’d be happy. But to me to give up enough to go to 21 for him just seems too steep. You could be right though.

Ok, still similar point - little to no athletic testing and what little he did wasn’t stellar. I would take Johnson at 30 if available, but I would not give up too much to move up for him. My guess is he runs high 4.5 range if he wasn’t willing to run a 40. He also has had multiple injuries. Don’t get me wrong, I like Johnson but lacking his athletic testing scores is a little concerning for a CB.

How many guys who aren’t hurt were talked about as top 10 picks in January and now are not considered that highly? I agree that everyone thinks Revel is an elite athlete, but he hasn’t been subjected to the testing that others have and he didn’t play against top competition in college. If he is available at 30, I can understand taking Revel, but trading up for him with that uncertainty would be tough for me to justify.

Who is playing CB?

The league is also valuing DT who can collapse the pocket or penetrate on passing downs.

There are rumblings of injury concerns and he has declined to run the 40 all offseason, so questions about how fast and athletic he really is. Enough to make him fall out of round 1? I don’t know about that.

I understand what you’re saying, but I think I’d be satisfied with a 10 year starter who makes a few Pro Bowls. The argument that Emmanwori is more likely to be even better seems to be based purely on size-speed. We know that every year there are size speed guys who never do great things. I know it’s a philosophical discussion, but to my untrained eye, Starks is the better prospect. I also don’t think the Bills will pick either of them.

From Ourlad’s scouting service: “Red flag medicals are likely to bump down defensive tackles Deone Walker and Derrick Harmon along with offensive lineman Donovan Jackson and edge defender Nic Scourton, among others. “ They also think Kenneth Grant will go in the top 15.

Pure BPA is subjective to begin with. How do compare different positions? Is this OG better than that CB?

There is likely not going to be “elite” talent at 30 let alone later.

I think you’re spot on. I get the feeling that they are a little down on Williams. I like what I see when he plays, but some say he isn’t good in pass coverage.

Very interesting - nice analysis.

I have seen him listed as high as 242lbs recently. I know he had a good half season, after they move Oledejo to DE, but he hardly played before that. Seems a small sample size to spend a 1st round pick on. I think this is more smoke - they are planning to play Milano and Bernard and I don’t think they will take a LB in the first to be the plan for 2026. Late 2nd? Maybe, but even that feels to rich for a guy to stash for a season.

While the story is nice, I don't think that it will have any bearing at all on whether the Bills trade out of the first. If they do trade down, they will still let this young man announce the pick.

No knock on the picks, but if they get to 62 and don't like the CBs, I think they have to either trade back to a spot where they are comfortable with a CB or just reach about 1/2 round for one. Every year, round 2 seems to produce some CB picks that seem to be pretty good sized reaches based on speed/athletic upside. I don't think they can contemplate having a multi-time seriously injured Tre White and Dane Jackson as their plan for CB2 for the full year. I do think White and Jackson give them room to wait for an injured Revel Jr or Morrison or an inexperienced Darien Porter to get up to speed by mid-late season. I'm not knocking who you picked, but I can't see going into day 3 without a CB having been selected.

I’m not intending to dump on Palmer, but on paper I think the Bills’ WR are bottom 1/3 of the league at best. Palmer has proven to be a good backup WR, but never became a consistent starter even on a Chargers team with little at the WR position. Keon Coleman showed some ability last year before his injury, but was basically a zero after returning and we know he wasn’t good at getting open to begin with. Will he become a better route runner and tougher at the catch point? I hope so, but who know what they will get from him. I agree on Curtis Samuel - I think they will get a lot more from him this year if he stays healthy. My opinion, fwiw, is that they need legitimate talent at WR but I don’t see much of that available in this draft class and the needs at DT, CB and even DE are more important (and probably line up better with this draft class) than WR.

I agree that a strong presence in the interior DL would help. If they can get a good solid starter in round 1 at DT that is a win. I am not anti-Williams, but I don’t think teams view him as even a fringe 1st rounder (of course I could be wrong). In the end, the team will have done its homework on these prospects and they will know things that the draft pundits and we don’t have access to - like injury situation, coachability, work ethic, has the player been in trouble, does their body have room for additional muscle, etc. if they pick someone who appears to be a reach, they will have done so with more information than we have.

I like Tyleik Williams, but I think 30 is too high unless the board is completely wiped out - like all the corners Hairston,, Amos, maybe Revel), all the DTs: Harmon, Nolan, Grant, and the DEs including Scourton are gone and finally Golden is gone at WR. I think Starks would have to be gone, too before I took Williams. I think of Williams as (at best) 4 years-ago Daquan Jones - he will help against the run and hopefully keep the LBs clean. With some luck maybe he helps free up Oliver in pass rushes, but I think Williams would be replaced in obvious passing situations. They could surely do worse than Williams and he would help the defense, but I think his ceiling is good starter and run stopper. Of course, that’s just my opinion based on watching a few of his games (and I am no trained scout).

I don’t think White solves the starting CB problem. I think ideally he and Jackson can hold down CB2 until a rookie can get ready. His signing might give them the latitude to draft a Revel or Morrison coming off injury and hope that they can be ready by mid-season or maybe they could take Porter and his 8 college starts and have the time to bring him up to speed. I don’t think White is who they want starting for a full season based on his last several years.

Why do you think someone would trade roughly the equivalent of a 3rd for a RB who is looking for a big payday in a really strong draft for RBs?