OldTimer1960

Your line of reasoning is sound, but look at Foles’ career - one great season followed by four not-so-good years. Even this miraculous season was underwhelming. This MIRACLE season, Foles completed 56% of his passes with a 5-2 TD to INT ratio. He surely had a nice run in the playoffs, but his career suggests that he won’t be able to continue that success. I would favor Mike White, Luke Falk or Kyle Lauletta in the 2nd/3rd round over trading even a 2nd for Foles.

Yes, the Browns are sitting in THE position of power in this draft. I strongly believe that they may go from 0-16 to 8-8 this year. They already have some very good defensive talent and are not devoid of talent on offense. If they nab Saquon Barkley and, say Mayfield in the first, they then get the 1st and 3rd pick of the 2nd round with another 2nd later. If they make good on those selections, they can be contenders for a long time.

Agreed. I hope that they keep him and he is healthy.

Good post. For sure nobody really knows how NFL teams view these guys, but for sure there are differing opinions between how teams view a given player.

QB is different than any other position because the supply of long-term answers is so low. You are in a much bigger hole if you don't have a good QB than if you don't have a good CB.

To me, if you try to get cute and trade down then pick him, then you don't really think he has a good chance to be a long-term answer. If that is the case, then wait and don't take him unless he is still available much later. However, if you think he has a good chance to be the long-term answer, why gamble - just take him at 21.

I was responding to you saying that 20 reps wasn't very impressive. Are you saying that it IS impressive for most people, but NOT impressive because you believe that the sleeve that fits over his arm where his hand is gives him a mechanical advantage? If you think that gave him an advantage, is it your hands that give out first on the BP or your chest/shoulders?

He out-lifted quite a fair number of the LBs and was competitive with many more (ie, within 1 or 2 reps). DE Marcus Davenport who is considerably bigger did 22 reps. I think that is quite an accomplishment.

If they think that Rudolph is a potential long-term starter for them, they should just take him in the first with 21 or 22. If they would contemplate waiting and hoping that he is available at 53, then they don't think he is likely to be a long-term answer.

I don’t know that you need a 4000 yard passer to win games, but you do need production in the passing game and at least the threat that you can pass the ball effectivel.

Didn’t he also build a team that went to 4 consecutive Super Bowls? His resume is more than solid gold. I suspect that all teams do what you have suggested here.

Jackson has SO much potential, but he could easily bust badly as well. I would not blame them if they were to draft Jackson. I, personally, would like an option with a higher floor.

If they were to trade what will be required to move up for Rosen, they will by definition be nearly positive that he is the long-term answer. In those circumstances, I would be shocked if they picked another QB with one of their (few) remaining picks. NICE.

Peterman is in no way guaranteed a roster spot. He was a 5th round pick. They can as easily move replace him as they did Cardale Jones. Can you provide some supporting analysis?

That's kind of how I saw it as well. I think he has the *potential* to be a decent starter, but doesn't have the upside that some of the other QBs have. I don't see much lacking in him, but his level of competition makes it hard to judge.

Do you think that could partly be explained by his weak supporting cast?

Blokes, what don't you like about Mason Rudolph? I know he is kind of a "blah" prospect with a relatively lower ceiling than several others, but he has size, was productive and (supposedly) impressed teams with his football knowledge when they interviewed him. I know he doesn't have the strongest of arms, but it appears adequate from what I've seen.

What have you seen in his game that you don't like? I've watched all the cut-ups on him that I can find and watched him at the combine. He is from a lower-level of competition and he is a bit slow, but I don't see a problem with his arm strength or accuracy. It is hard to judge anticipation in any of these guys.

I am not opposed to drafting 2 QBs this year, but if they trade all the way up to get Rosen, I don't think they would spend what little they have left this year on another QB. Now, if they sit tight at 21 and take, say, Mason Rudolph or Lamar Jackson (if he is available), then I think it would be a good move to take someone like Lauletta, Mike White or Luke Falk as early as one of their 2nds or maybe at the end of round 3. One hope is if 5 or 6 QBs go in round 1, there may not be much demand for the next tier in the draft and you may be able to get one of them later than you otherwise might in a year without so many decent to good prospects.

I think that having a decent OL will also help his accuracy. In the games I’ve seen, many of his throws were on the run due to defensive pressure

Do you NOT think a QB’s completion % is affected by the protection he receives from his OL?

I think Jackson deserves the same pass. I think that Allen’s situation is on the extreme end of the spectrum with his supporting cast far below average, but I don’t discount Louisville’s supporting group either. From what I can tell, Allen was running for his life behind an overmatched OL and had struggling WRs as well. I can’t conclude for sure that Allen will be a top pro, but I also can’t hang his comp% solely on him.

I am frustrated by that as well. I am no scout, but I would be happy with Mason Rudolph at 21.

Knowing that you need a QB and having the picks to get one are different stories. i applaud their trade down last year that netted KC’s 1st pick. However, it would take the Bills’ and KC’s 1sts to get within striking range AND at least another high pick to get top 4.

I think you are over-estimating the value of the Bills’ draft picks.