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Could it just be marrone was a much better coach than Rex? Not a huge fan of the dude but he’s doing good stuff in Jax and had some of our best results too

Speed. Everywhere. Bpa that can move fast.

Your “friend” didn’t want to sign up for the draft?!?

You know athlete is speed commentary. He’s clearly an athlete but this is a case of does he run past blockers and chase down backs or is he a smart and stout player that knocks his blocker back a step, sheds the right way and wraps up?

Ultimately, he checked the box. I don’t care 32 vs 37 vs 34 vs 40 i don’t want sub 20 at qb though

I will be shocked if he doesn’t start any games this year.

He’s a pretty iconic fan and I believe heads up the DFW bills backers - who are a huge and very active group. Im more surprised you don’t know him than that the bills do

I appreciate the imagery... ha! I haven’t watched a ton of him but the takeaway I had from the little bit was less best first step and fast up field and more technically sound and very sturdy. Ill stress i didnt mean it as a knock— just that I envision him beating up the guy in front of him and getting the tackle a step into the backfield regularly, instead of the get the guy 5 yards deep type of getting up field.

Ultimately day 3 isn’t about this year anyway. If we are counting on a guy tomorrow to be a big impact we’ve already created abust. There’s no telling what we need in 2020 so you get the best player you can and figure success anywhere on the field is great down the line. ill keep floating griffin as a curveball that would round out a major infusion of athleticism at lb behind an influx of DTs protecting them. Could be a hell of a transformation in the middle of the field.

Gotta generally be bpa but as you get deep in the draft things tend to flatten out a bit outside a few random slides. take advantage of any big differential but any ties have to go to offensive speed

Is he that type of penetrating player though? They kind of look alike but he seems like a different player from the little I know (more like star than Kyle, no?)

Nice pick

Pretty much anyone passing here must’ve flagged him hes got to be bpa otherwise

Suspected he’d be gone

Call me crazy but.... griffin? I want an offensive playmaker but think this kid could be the real deal despite the obvious challenges

All about the docs. All you can do is trust your guys. If cleared he’s a no brainer. Looks like no ones confident though. call me crazy but... maybe griffin at 96 or in the 4th? I want offensive playmakers but the kids another freak athlete

He was just too ordinary and far too many teams would have gotten guys between the top 4 and free agency. Anything’s possible but it did seem too frenzied here for a bit.

Thats what a single digit wonderlic indicates, no jokes intended

I like to think I’m not dumb, and I’m relatively outgoing... and I accept that calling a game for 3 hours would be extremely difficult. What made VY think he could is beyond me

I’ve got to ask... did I seem to be crying about racism here? Guy asked for data points to back up someone else’s comment, so I sent a few over. I seem to be the least emotional of the group, while the two of you got upset.

Meh, I started to feel bad about the detour then remembered the 32 other threads about him and that this was far from the primary one anyway

I believe the point is that if you drop Drew Brees on a JV high school football field he should light it up as the best of all 22 players every snap.... taking it to the extreme

I mean, I asked what data you’d like and you said hate crimes. Is there other concrete data you want instead? I also brought housing data, for example. Im very explicitly not saying WNY is full of racists but instead that by several differing metrics it simply tends to rank on the wrong end of the spectrum. I’ve gone out of my way to explicitly call out buffalo as having a lot of good things and good people but room to grow on race relations. So far you’ve offered up that racists live everywhere, and that it could be transplants coming for college throwing off the stats online and hate crime data is incorrect.

Totally fair- and I was genuinely curious. Clearly spent a lot of time and I appreciate the effort

All I pulled is what you asked for. It obviously comes with issues of what’s actually charged. For someone upset by casual comments you’ve brought little data and made a few of those comments yourself. I don’t mean that as an insult but it seems you might be the one that made up your mind without using data.