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I thought Washington but they are really stuck with Smith 2 more years. They are in purgatory for a minute it seems.

I think saints like bridgewater in that scenario miami, was my curveball. If going off script maybe Big Ben retires?

Nope- you are counting his signing bonus on that. Actually is 18 and 20. which isn’t crazy

Right, but it seems that the conversation is more “franchise wr” than “1st read” i think most most of us can agree a randy moss and an Edelman are very different types and would have very different values in the league in their prime. Where do you draw the line between those? Full route trees, size, speed, hands, beat elite talent or doubles, can make plays without hof qb and great support, etc... Aj green is great in 32 cities. Larry fitz was fantastic on bad teams. Edelman I think struggles in many cities.

I believe that many are getting at “the guy that can transcend scheme or situation” not the guy that happens to be the #1 option on a random depth chart at some point

Basically. If you have 1 play to win the game, an average qb and a wr facing a good corner- who are you throwing to? Julio, brown, aj green, Odell not zay. Likely not even welker without brady. Moss? Yes. It’s kind of the same debate as franchise QBs. There are about 10-15 QBs that are legit “the guy.” A few debatable and then a lot of interchangeable guys from 25-70

And yet, plenty of employers don’t test for it. I haven’t taken any drug tests in 10 years and multiple job changes in a state where it’s illegal

Its entirely possible he doesn’t want to play football but isn’t mature enough to handle walking away gracefully. This is where you draw the line on pointless kvetching? Really, Joe? ?

Ive seen them live a few times and they are great- but as you mention, never ended up buying an album. very young and very talented- so curious where they end up down the line still

Best zepplin cover band around. I mean that in the best and worst of ways!

The ref falls back into the shot at the end and is clearly not looking that way. Hard to rage against him not seeing it. Guy can’t have 360 degree vision

Outside of specifically signing 4-5 league best guys and carrying a ton active on game day he’s been a train wreck his whole career. In a role like that youve got to get more out of less. You are churning bottom of the roster guys and have to get them up to speed fast and consistently. He’s terrible unless he has super established guys week in and week out that are not needing coaching

Hes the worst

Fortunately we do have a ton to spend in free agency. If we can add 2 OL and a WR before the draft, that first round being BPA isn’t awful. It’s not a train wreck where we have “meh” talent across the board as much as having a few catastrophic spots. A few key pieces goes a long way next offseason.

I’d even argue next year is the year. 2 lineman, 2 or maybe 3 pass catchers (could be a TE) I’d prefer a vet lineman as practice rules slow development If they aren’t a 10 win type of team next year, this regime is going to need to explain some stuff.

No worries - I just think there’s a worth mention gap between instant head coach material and guy that might get rumored around an individual job by a lone reporter. Like if I post oldtimeaflguy might be considered that doesn’t thrust you to HC material. I doubt it goes far or stretches to other teams, but maybe. Still a lot of football left. If allen looks solid he could get calls.

I think you are likely overstating what his current status is. Someone could have him on their list but that doesn’t mean he’s suddenly the hot name out there also- offense. Anyone with any offensive success shoots up lists. That’s why some of us argue that you snag the offensive mind as HC and then you can get a great and steady dc

It’s a “don’t even crack the door on allowing confrontations with refs” situation. You may not like the ref here but players can’t think that’s remotely ok either is all

Could be. Player vs ref is a much riskier situation both for potential injury as well as integrity of the game though so it tends to come with really escalated punishment

What’s the normal ratio on that?

Means a ton 6 months before the decision needs to be made

Half was an arbitrary term but for sake of discussion the salary floor is a 5 year rolling average of cash spent. You could carry over whatever in a single year but have to spend on average over 5 years 89%(though I think that may have scaled a point or two higher over time?)

So if we carry over half and have a ton in 2020.... when do you think he finally spends? Just saving it all for allen preemptively?

I do often waffle back and forth about how much the nfl should really be investigating employees off field beyond mandatory reporting of any arrests/charges to the league. At this point hunt wouldve been better off if handled handled differently by HIMSELF, right?

I knew someone would get hung up on that phrasing but.... I was referring to the prototype and design of an offense. you only need a semi mobile guy and allen passes that test was the point. ultimately we are better off with allen not racking up 100 yards. It’s fun and exciting and great to have in your back pocket for the right moment but it’s a symptom of a problem as a week in and out feat. In the end we are going to be most efficient if his legs move the pocket, extend plays and only occasionally steal a few third down conversions or the once in a blue moon designed play to keep a defense honest on options. He far passes that and creates a huge box that the defense has to genuinely cover sideline to sideline and line of scrimmage to 70 yards down field if paired with speed outside.