NoSaint

The point, it flew right by you. sure. A general aaf thread works.

Maybe start with a thread for a game before jumping to a forum

Honestly, was the third down incompletion to ginn the drive prior self inflicted? Or was it another PI no call? On the OT interception could you have called either roughing the passer or PI for holding Thomas? the saints didn’t play a perfect game but they should’ve beat what’s the second best team in the conference for the second time in a season if the refs decided to call ANYTHING down the stretch. The one play is just getting a ton of attention because none of the usual ways to excuse the human element really work beyond “he decided that wasn’t a rule down the stretch”

I was in the dome 100 yards away and it was obvious. They had multiple guys right there. even if uncatchable it was still helmet to helmet- but they’ve never alleged it uncatchable. i don’t think a conspiracy but I do think that they decided they sure weren’t throwing a flag no matter what there. That one of the refs on the spot has history with issues with the saints and Sean Payton might have factored a tiny bit too. i did enjoy that it seems clear the coach wore a Goodell is a clown shirt to a press conference today (under a sweatshirt but peaking out enough to be identified)

I suppose it’s also an interesting term to define. Do you, I, Buffalo rumblings and bill all define pressures the same?

Ultimately you win throwing the ball or effecting the passer. It’s got to either be a weapon for Allen or someone that is going to rush the passer. as offensive lineman are slower to develop with limited contact in practice - give me vets to protect and snag a receiver or pass rusher top 10

Do they win because of stability or do the major guys not get fired because they are good at their jobs? Also, an odd demarcation to use finish and start instead of start consecutive. A solid back door from peterman.

It feels like common sense to both protect your product but also your people. It doesn’t feel fair to the ref to have to worry about a blown call being questioned in that way. I dont think its it’s anything more nefarious than “we aren’t throwing a flag that decides the game” but it’s easy to create questions because they didn’t flip the assignments for the two units

I am, at least academically, interested in what special circumstances would require utilizing the rule given that it’s on the books that a game can be restarted at the point of a call. Like does cash have to exchange hands publicly?

I don’t disagree. But unless both crews have former rams on them it seems easy to just swap their flights and switch the assignments. can you imagine this board if we host the AFCCG and lose on a call like that with 4 dudes from Boston and teddy bruschi is on the crew?!?

Or they can happen in a blowout and be totally insignificant. It’s all about timing in such a rare play.

It appears pretty clearly about last week. It was essentially an LA based crew with a former Ram/Falcon on it. Even if you aren’t one to think it biased, it shocks me that the nfl would be so obtuse as to allow these optics to exist in case they made a bad call favoring the rams.

Odds are you see 1-2 defensive scores next year. Probably not a kick return, but it’s possible.

Last offseason had zay running naked, Richie incognito, poyer, the McCoy drama and of course peterman named our week 1 starter while Mahomes started his march to the afccg. We opted to make moves to lead the league in dead money. We went backwards in the win loss column but write it off because our owners hired an unproven coach and left him with a lame duck GM until he could hand pick his own guy AFTER free agency and the draft. We better hope that our star qb that came with his draft night Twitter surprise works out or the legacy might not be as sterling as we hope.

You seem to think we’d really fill out the roster with the 6.5m on the line here eh?

If you trade to where the best player available is also a need - you can make some really good choices. its not that complicated.

Poor form on NRC with that Facebook video looking Hugh as a kite talking about laying TLL out

ultimately I’m curious why this needs to be “fixed” How much of a slam dunk should the super bowl be for teams with decent QBs and why do we need to widen the gap long term between the haves and have nots? Shouldnt hitting a high pick at the most important position give you a short term perk of great value?

One thing NRC did put to bed is the talk of turning PI into anything other than a spot foul. I’ve often read here that corners wouldn’t intentionally interfere in the situation... but heck, on the saints last three drives the final plays ended up with a blatant PI no call, the worst PI no call in years (and helmet to helmet on a defenseless receiver to boot) and I haven’t seen a replay of the interception since at the game but it sure looked like brees was hit high and Thomas held at the time. It’s hard to make plays in that setting.

When your two big third downs in the 4th quarter see receivers clobbered substantially before the ball gets there, it gets hard to make clutch plays or extend drives. They had plenty of bad habits on display but... it’s hard to make the big play in the big moment when you get tackled while the ball is 10 yards away.

Come on, it’s two different 4th quarter drives ending in absolute muggings. It’s hard to compare that impact to whether the play clock was a tenth of a second late or a borderline incidental face mask happened. I get your point but there were a few huuuge plays. The holding of ginn on 3rd and 7 was pretty aggressive too.

I heard billboards started showing up in Atlanta late today?

Flip side- Tommy lee Lewis needed to sprint to the refs demanding the call. They needed to know in the moment this was a big thing.

You still have a fantastic qb after, and if you nail a draft or two you can have a Michael Thomas and Kamara and... on rookie deals far below market. but yes, having a an on one of those deals is the biggest savings possible and gives you a shot at the best 52 around him he will ever have. The past 10 years simply hasn’t seen many franchise qbs come out. If Blake bortles was a great qb they’d be fine still but likely have a ring or two to boot. That he’s terrible and still came close says a ton about what that big discount does. A cheap qb is akin to like 2-3 other all pros on rookie deals as far as impact on capology

Some of y’all may recall my frustration with the nfl last season after the Atlanta-NOLA Thursday night game where the former falcons player turned official made some pretty bold calls down the stretch. Oh, yea, that dude was on the crew again today and his other team was the rams. It it still shocks me that former players can ref their own teams games.