NoSaint

Condescending and barely meaningful. Well played. yea, it wasn’t a particularly great play. And you’d hope that most gunners would be able to make it - if not by athleticism then by better discipline. Sure they have decided to give him the job but I’m not sure that cements him as the best on the entire 53 or that any substantial margin exists to the next option. oh, and ignoring foster himself, special teams is far from a third of the game

I’ll cheer for him to stay solid, but not hold my breathe either dont Particularly like the guy but wouldn’t wish mental illness on anyone.

I mean, you’ve watched a bills game right? Where do you think brown and beasley and gore and most of our OL and Hughes and Starr and Hyde and zo and poyer and.... all come from? Players move around a lot. I mean, if you tack 2 years on his age hed be in those top ten oldest players lists that are reserved for qbs kickers and long snappers. more power to him but he’s legit very old for a 2 year deal.

im not sure 1 more interception every 5 games counters all those. It’s an interesting trade out. id take josh throwing 3 more (heck, more than that even) if it bumped everything else that much,

you could make a similar statement about pretty much any player.

very fair. Hard to quantify but from what we can see on the outside, and what people tell us about them it seems both guys have excellent leadership qualities.

During the last 20 years, you never had another qb in the league you’d have rather seen in our huddle?

watsons got like 8.5% higher completion percentage, over a yard per attempt better, a full point better in TD percentage, 45 more 1st downs on just 30 more throws. Passer rating is 14 points higher (11th vs 24th ranked) and QBR is 23 points higher (6th vs 25th). Watson threw 3 more picks though. Allen makes up with a few more fumbles. Allen’s got a little more volume rushing but they are relatively similar there per carry. objectively, I’m not sure you are being objective. We’d all trade for the other guys stat line. That said, Allen’s a little younger, a bit more of a project, and shows promise.

give him a break- he doesn’t bring up your post history ?

Ultimately no stat or ranking systems going to be perfect. Cold data doesn’t account for any of the factors you point at and human adjustments come with both bias and errors. Out of curiosity, do we know where he landed in their rankings? is the argument 6 vs 3 or is it 14 vs 3?

a good team can have a lot of good players without having the #1 at a position. Likewise a bad team can have the #1 at a position. tre is really the only one with a strong case, no?

it’s who he has always been, for better and worse im not sure having a drink in your hometown on NYE, after your season is finished, is that noteworthy

yes - to beat multiple top teams consecutively you tend to have to be an all around good team, and top of the list is still being able to toss the ball

Just an FYI - had this thread already this week

Or that’s not why they picked him

so they surprise you but not those around you. An interesting insight.

I feel like that’s a poor use of that simile. Isn’t the whole point that it’s a surprise?

He won’t be perfect But this was a major miss on a guy he should’ve known well. the 3rd isn’t huge but the cap and more importantly the opportunity cost of getting someone else hurt a bit. Not the end of the world but a minor miss.

yea it’d be real weird if he was like “josh Allen? He sucks but I got paaaaaid” that’s not to say he was lying but can only throw so much weight on it

Josh is also the lowest and only sub-200 YPG guy. A good team doesn’t have to throw 300 weekly, but it’s starting to be odd that it never happens, right?

you could do the heavy lifting and still have leftover if you want

we have a TON to spend. If drafting Both WR and DE, where are you spending?

assuming all else stays generally the same, we need a DE1, WR1, and RB2 this offseason. Whether draft, trade or free agency- its a crossroads where the price doesn’t matter much if they can land true immediate impact players.

there are quite a few we don’t generally hear about

Good for Henry