vincec

I know that this is a Bills bad play thread, but no play in Bills history is as comical as this Miami fiasco, IMO. I watch this play every once in a while for entertainment.

I understand what you’re saying, but it would be pretty harsh to blame Beane for not bailing out McDermott from the year before.

Beane? McDermott made the picks with Beane secretly advising from Carolina. Whaley did have input on Jones, Peterman and Vallejo though. At least that’s the TBD version. Seriously though, the 2018 draft is looking like an A as well, just for Allen by himself.

I’m not too worried about it. The Bills went to the AFC championship game without a big giant space eater on the roster last season and did fine against Baltimore in the playoffs without one too. To be honest I wouldn’t be shocked if Lotulelei is a surprise roster cut. They Bills have a logjam at DL, his play was mediocre two seasons ago and who knows what he’s going to look like after a season off.

I don’t know but it’s going to be fun to find out.

Damn. He was good.

To counter the commentators saying that Allen is doing better than Jackson because of the offensive system he’s in and the personnel around him, you could make the case that Jackson is doing well for the exact same reasons. Baltimore built their offense around his skill set and he fits perfectly into Greg Roman’s system. I seriously doubt that he would be doing as well if he had Diggs, Beasley and Brown and was asked to throw the ball all the time.

I agree. One of the good things about the zone heavy scheme that the Bills play is that they don't have to spend a lot of money on elite CBs. They already have White, so if they draft another top player then it would just be a rental until his rookie contract is up. No way would they keep both White and another elite CB. So I wouldn't see him as the "long term starter" Beane is talking about.

I think the players available and the coach's ability as a player manager, teacher and strategist have far more impact on how good a defense is that scheme. That being said, it I had to pick a scheme in a vacuum, I'd say Schwartz's 4-3. It's simple, aggressive, and can work with a couple of outstanding DL. If you get 4 together with one good cover guy, like the Bills had, then you have the best defense in the league. Wade had the best defense overall, but he had the best players and was the best coach too, so that's the main reason IMO.

Tough to see the logic in drafting a RB high when your backs run the ball 18 times a game. Better off looking for a TE or DE with that top pick.

I liked him too when Roman was the OC, but he needs places with run focused offenses that allow him to go deep vs man coverage. I still remember him getting injured while taking a knee on a kickoff return in the end zone. Classic Glass.

1Ts are headed the way of FBs and blocking TEs. They can be occasionally useful, but the Bills went 15-4 last season without a real 1T and when they lost in the AFC Championship Game, having a 1T wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference.

They could even play Oliver and Richardson together as dual 3T on passing downs. I think the days of Richardson getting huge contracts are over.

Why are people saying the Bills don't need him because he's a 3T? Are Vernon Butler and Justin Zimmer better than him?

Agree 100%. What he said about the Bears developing QBs and how they allocate assets is dead on, IMO. But throwing Green Bay in there seems a little spiteful to me.

I'd take Robert Mathis.

You know what John Madden used to say: When a team says that they have multiple good running backs, what that actually means is that they don't have any.

I have no idea what happened in these incidents, but given that Watson is an elite QB in his prime- the most coveted asset in all of pro football (and maybe any sport), he will get opportunities to play again no matter what happens unless he actually goes to jail for an extended period of time and is flat unavailable.

If they wanted to play more 12 personnel then they should have brought in another good TE. At this point I don't really see the point in putting another mediocre tight end out at the expense of one of their good WRs.

For a year to groom the new QB and rehab Jimmy Gs rep a little. Then make the trade next season.

I think it has more to do with how infrequently they throw the ball. Receivers want to come to teams like the Bills that throw the ball on nearly every down, not the Ravens where they spend most of their time blocking.

I actually don't think he's as bad as some on TBD do so I'd be happy to see it, but I doubt he's going to stick around for the league min. He'll get picked up somewhere for more than that.

Those 5 guys at the prime pass rush position on the team are a concern to me. You've got two aging players with declining production and three completely unproven players. At this point another season with lots of blitzing to make the pass rush happen seem likely.

This strategy of 8 average DL in rotation has led to the most expensive DL group in the league with mediocre results on the field.

Zero. That's my concern. The position hasn't really been addressed beyond this season.