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Wasn’t that play pretty identical to roughing penalty on Bills in Dallas game when Prescott slid? Tough on the defense but it is what it is.

I was going to start a topic on a similar note but OP beat me to it. My point was going to be what a difference a couple of months make in looking at Beane’s drafts and other moves. So many draft picks were meh or questionable or unproven going into the season have come through in a big way (Oliver, Bernard, Bedford, Cook, Kincaid, Torrence, etc.). In fact, look through all his drafts and the only busts are #2 rounders Ford and Basham. Those picks look worse in hindsight to posters because we passed on Metcalf and AJ Brown for Ford and Creed Humphrey for Basham. (I’m in the camp that you can’t call Elam a bust yet. He looked decent rookie year and has supposedly been hurt this year.). Add the great looking trade for Douglas and it’s hard to argue Beane isn’t an upper echelon GM. You need a Super Bowl win or at least an appearance to rank with the very best put we’re lucky to have him.

286 yards of offense and 7 points. Yesh.

That’s such a false narrative. Pretty much every poster on this forum was big time nervous about last year’s team from halftime of the Green Bay game forward.

Is my memory correct that he wasn’t even tossed from the game after pummeling White? Outrageous.

So which was worse? Picking Spiller when Jackson and Marsh were on the roster or picking a RB with the first pick in the second round when you’re first round pick was OJ freakin’ Simpson!

What a hilariously bad list. Henri Richard higher than Marcel Dionne? Newsy Lalonde? Was this put together by an 80 year old?

No intentional grounding? In the pocket, didn’t make it to the LOS, no receiver near it.

Yes, please. Wait a week before the Turk pays a visit.

That wasn’t a designed rollout. He was flushed out of the pocket and threw against the grain. You wouldn’t do that on a designed rollout.

Like most of the posters here, I hate, hate, HATE the WR screen pass. Especially running it over and over against a D playing man press (KC). When was the last time we ran a “traditional” screen (OL leaks out after pretending to pass block, RB leaks out and has a couple of blockers in front of him when he gets the ball)? Cincinnati ran a couple of nice screens against the Colts. Is it because our OL isn’t athletic? I thought Morse and Brown were athletic enough to get out on in front on a screen. (Shout out to Brown, whose play seems to be much improved). One more rant. Just like Fran Stalinovskovichdavidovitshky is the deadliest woman in the world with a dodgeball, Josh Allen is the deadliest QB in the NFL rolling to his right. Why not have a couple of designed rollouts? Worst that happens is a throw OB if nobody’s open.

Great weekend. One thing from this game is that Hill should be MVP. Fins O is utterly average without him.

If I had to pick a Billsy play from yesterday, it would be Murray taking three steps and then dropping the ball for no apparent reason, somewhat tainting a truly miraculous play from Allen.

This is 100% wrong. No one - NO ONE - thought Jackson should go ahead of Allen. The bias stems from all of the experts who predicted Allen would bust because he wasn't accurate in college. Many - not all - won't get off that train.

I started this thread to make a point, probably not very articulately, that the refs have way to much say so in the outcome of games and given the amount of money now bet on NFL games that can be very dangerous indeed. Can their influence be diminished? I think it could. Eliminate ticky tack calls on PI, defensive holding and illegal contact, reduce the severity of certain penalties, be more consistent as to what offensive holding is, etc. Not sure there is the will to get this done as long as the money keeps rolling in.

I’m hoping for a Jim Lee Howell situation redux. First step is to see if Brady is the real deal as OC. Hopefully, we’ll know by the end of the season. Second, hire a young aggressive DC who won’t play a soft zone at the end of one score games. McDermott stays as HC. Who is Jim Lee Howell? He was NY Giants HC during the late 50’s. His DC was Tom Landry and his OC was Vince Lombardi!

**** you Amazon and your ever buffering mother****ing streaming service. Can’t wait for the game on Peacock.

Wow. That sucks.

If anyone other than OP agrees with this, you should let him know. Punting from the 31 yard line with a 10 point lead would be the worst “Preposterous Punt” (credit to Greg Easterbrook) in Bills’ history. Worse than Gregg Williams punting from Pats’ 30 yard line way back when.

Please. Philly selects Jefferson and instead of Diggs we get Justin Reagor. Or do you have a crystal ball come draft day?

I think we need a young Alec Baldwin to come into the locker room to give his Glengarry Glenn Ross speech. Always Be Closing!!!

KC game I was all for going for 2. You win or lose in regulation and force Bills D to actually play defense if you don’t convert. Different situation with Philly. If you’re successful on the 2, plenty of time for Philly to march down field for the win. Making it a 3 point game, makes Philly play conservative and settle for FG attempt.

Want to be fair. D had big stop last year to win KC game. Other than that, has D made a late stop to win a game (I guess you can include NYG game this year but what a cluster bleep that was)? Honest question.

Bingo! Agree 100%. McDermott is scared to death of giving up the big play at the end of tight games and I really believe it goes back to the Hill TD.

So, the consensus is that the play is unstoppable and if the Eagles are in 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 you just concede the yard or the TD?