st pete gogolak

Actually, I think Burris and Rogers elevates this in the decent category, let alone not "worst of all time". Marlo Perry and Lonnie Johnson has some moments as well. Not great, but far from terrible.

The title of the thread was more for effect than anything. Of course, Broncos' 2018 draft wasn't worst of all time. Many, many drafts were worse. I guess the point I was trying to make is that unless you have Allen, Mahones, Brady in his prime, etc. you have to evaluate your QB situation every single year. Someone pointed out that Keenum wasn't a Bronco at draft time. I didn't realize that but it makes the Broncos situation that year even more puzzling. At #5, they had firepower to move up (possibly) to get a QB. Did they do their homework on Allen (who played next door at Wyoming for goodness sakes) and didn't believe him worthy? Just puzzling draft from that perspective.

The GB game was just weird. I mean really weird. Run D has been absolutely magnificent all year long, including games against Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. Against GB, they were absolutely gouged. No sugar coating it, both first half and second half. Offense looked great first half and first drive of second half (probably go in for TD without the holding call). Josh was fine in second half (Knox and Davis with early drops) until the play he was tackled OB on the drive that resulted in a FG. After that, he was pretty bad, missing throws he makes in his sleep. Add in some really questionable play calling and it amounted to a strange, kind of unsatisfying game. But a win is a win and in two weeks no one will remember anything but the win.

Didn't Baugh play DB as well and have at least one year with double digit INT's? Crazy stuff. Different era.

Hey, the Bills have messed up more than their share of drafts and no, it's not the worst ever. But this isn't really looking at what the Broncos have done in hindsight. They decided to stick with Case Keenum in a QB rich draft. Kind of crazy.

OK, maybe not the absolute worst in NFL history but they are sitting at #5 in a supposedly historic QB class and their QB is Case Keenum. Not only do they not draft Josh Allen but they turn down a trade with the Bills because they absolutely, positively have to have Bradley Chubb at #5. They churn through Keenum, Paxton Lynch and Drew Lock and decide they are a QB away from the Super Bowl and give the farm away for what looks like a washed Russell Wilson. The cherry on top is now trading Chubb for a #1. What a frickin' disaster.

This is a nice coup for the Bank of America investment banking group. Usually, this would go to Goldman or JP Morgan.

It would be nice, I don't know, give it to a running back and have the running back rush it into the endzone. It would certainly throw the opposing team for a loop.

There's a time and place for everything. For example, after the Cook catch and then the Cook run, we had a second and goal from the three yard line with a little over ten minutes left in the game and a 27 - 10 lead. I'm sorry but the call there should have been to run on second down. If you don't get in, run on third down and if you still aren't in, either kick the field goal or go for it on fourth down. You are either up 34 - 10, 30 - 10 or 27 - 10 and GB has the ball around the one yard line with about 8 minutes left. I'd really like to see if this team is capable of bull rushing the ball into the end zone from inside the five.

OK, problem solved. Didn't know time out was called in Colts game and that it is ok to take helmet off during time out. Much appreciated explanation. Call against Moore was still ticky tack as my understanding of the rule is that once you are off field of play, it's ok to take helmet off. Moore didn't remove helmet until he was off field of play.

So how many seconds do you have to wait before you can take your helmet off in the field of play?

Moore started to take his helmet off just as he was exiting boundary of end zone and it didn't come off until he was clearly outside the boundary of the end zone. Result? 15 yard penalty that may have cost Panthers the game. McLaurin makes great catch near the end of the game against Indy, takes his helmet off in the middle of the field after the play. Result? Nothing. Washington wins the game on one yard plunge. Is there a rationale for all of this or is it just ad hoc sometimes I'll enforce the rules and sometimes I won't? Also, not much was discussed about this but how could a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct NOT be called on Douglas after the Diggs touchdown. After the play was over he picked up Diggs and threw him to the ground. It didn't impact game and Bills had plenty of calls go their way but come on, try to be consistent!!

I have no idea whether Singletary will be resigned after this year. I do know that there are an unbelievable number of very good running backs who will be on the market next year which will (1) depress the RB market and potentially make resigning Singletary economically feasible and (2) if we don't resign him, we should be able to sign a good back on the cheap to pair with Cook.

I didn't suggest that this would be a WINNING strategy. It's almost the ONLY strategy the Jets can employ to stay in the game. My real question is whether we put a third LB on the field from the get-go to counter any heavy O the Jets put on the field. From experience, it just doesn't seem like the Bills like to do that, especially if it takes Taron Johnson off the field.

He opened with a very good game against LA, missed Tenn with ankle injury, shouldn't have played against Mia and Balt because he was obviously not close to 100%, came back with monster game against Pitt and very good game against KC. Admittedly, he had a poor game last night but there's no way they are going to attempt to pick someone up to replace Davis as starter (including OBJ coming off ACL tear). Not going to happen.

I haven't watched the Jets much this year but I did watch yesterday's game against the Pats. No way do they put the game in Wilson's hands. I think he will be on a very tight leash. I know that Hall and their best O Lineman are out but I can certainly see them running all sorts of heavy, two tight end sets, try to grind the clock, rely on their defense to keep it close, etc. My question is whether we stay 4-2-5 if they go heavy. After our game yesterday, I assume the answer is yes. Not sure it's a great answer.

Davis wasn't the reason we lost last night. Oh, wait a minute, we actually won by 10 points. In all seriousness, he had a rough game, couple of drops, stupid penalty. He's a very good #2. Remember, he was hurt and basically gutted through a couple of games. He also comes up big in big games. We don't need receivers. Maybe some backup help on the OL and safety depending on how serious Poyer's injury is.

The Chiefs easily could have (should have?) already lost to both the Chargers and the Raiders at home this season. I don't think any of their remaining divisional games will be walkovers. After watching Jets - Pats yesterday, I'd rather play Wilson, Jones and Tua than Herbert, Carr and Wilson.

Bennett is kind of the "forgotten Bill" from the great teams of the late 80's and early 90's. Great player, borderline HOF. Still amazing that a team with Bruce Smith, Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Bennett, et al. didn't win a Super Bowl.

Do you mean let Cook rush?

Why did the Bills cut Azaria loose before the allegations were proven true? The question answers itself.

They're terrible. I think the Bears are much better off with designed runs for him.

Looked at his Super Bowl stats. Not only did he win the majority of his SB's after age 37 (which in and of itself is insane) but his stats while he was in his "prime" were pretty pedestrian. After 37? Pretty awesome. If he's clean, it's the biggest anomaly in sport history.

It's Wide Right. It's the Music City Miracle. It's 13 Seconds. Toss in the Harmon Drop, "Just Give It To Them", the Hail Murray and a few others. Sprinkle in a little Sabres history too (No Goal). If there was a Super Bowl win mixed in with the rest, it wouldn't be nearly as bad, but there isn't so we feel especially snake bitten. Let me add a comment on thirteen seconds. I thought we had the game won but only for a millisecond. Butker has a big leg and I was immediately worried about a very long distance FG (60 plus yards). He hit from 62 against us last week so that was a legitimate concern. OK, we screw up the kickoff and no time burned and they are starting from their 25. To get to makeable FG range (less than 65 yards) they need to go from the 25 to somewhere around our 45. Thirty yards in 13 seconds with all their timeouts. As said in Godfather Part II about assassinating Hyman Roth, "Difficult, not impossible." It was absolutely ludicrous to play a prevent defense with your safeties 30 yards off the line of scrimmage unless you are playing for a tie. Hell, even if we went for two at the end and converted, KC would have had a legitimate shot at the end zone with the last play of the game. I do believe, however, that this year will be different. I can't believe they will ever take their foot off the pedal.

I'm old enough to actually remember when Pete Gogolak kicked for the Bills. I currently live in St. Petersburg FL so there's the name. The picture is from the 1965 Topps AFL series, which is a pretty sweet set. It has Joe Namath's rookie card and a nice set of old time Bills (Kemp, Sestak, etc.) on a pink background of all colors.