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Would you still hate Brady if he had led the Bills to six SB Championships? Kind of a silly question, no?

Keeping Lamonica and trading Kemp certainly would have been controversial. Kemp was coming off two AFL titles and three straight AFL East crowns. Belichick certainly trades Kemp and keeps Lamonica but it's a different age. Plus the Wilson loan to the Raiders and Lamonica causing "locker room" issues, who knows exactly what was behind the trade. Both Powell and Flores were done by the time they got to Buffalo. In hindsight, it's the worst trade in Bills history.

I wholeheartedly agree this could be a great, under the radar signing. His YPC his first couple of years were wide receiver territory, not tight end numbers. Obviously, is he healthy? Can he stay healthy? If he is healthy and can stay healthy, this will turn out very well for us.

The Bills didn't trade Jefferson for Diggs. They traded, among other things, #22 for Diggs. There was no guarantee Jefferson would be there at #22 if that was the guy you were targeting. In fact, he shouldn't have been there. Eagles picked Jalen Reagor - pretty sizable bust so far - at #21.

Really, really hate the idea of trading next year's #1, not just for the Bills but anyone (thought Saints giving up next year's #1 to Eagles was just flat out stupid when there is a good chance it will be a top ten pick). Of course it worked out ok for KC giving up a next year #! to get Mahones. I've seen Gardner mocked anywhere from #4 to #12. If he is there at #10, I'd consider trading #25 and next year's #1 for Gardner. I certainly wouldn't hate it. That would be top offer, however. Wouldn't give up anything else.

If I recall correctly, the thought was that Josh would sit the first year, similar to Mahones. It was pretty universal thinking that he was "raw" and would need time to develop. Despite the numbers I think every single Bills fan was very excited about him after the first year and couldn't wait until opening day the next season. That trend continues. Can't wait for opening day 2022.

Thank God they passed on Herbert.

I keep going back to his first two years in TB. Sixty total receptions averaging 16.6 yards per reception and 11 touchdowns. I realize it's an achilles but even if he is 90% back, he can present a nightmare downfield matchup plus an end zone target. It's a gamble but it's a great risk-reward gamble.

If Zay Jones was making more money than me, I'd be PO'ed too. (Just kidding.)

I really, really like this signing, although an achilles injury is one of those injuries that you may never come back 100%. Takeo Spikes was an absolute great player but never really came back from his achilles injury. I think Sam Cowart was the same. If Howard can come back with 90% of potential he flashed before injury, I think we may have something special. He averaged 16.6 yards per reception each of his first two years in the league. That's insane for a TE.

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I guess they don't plan on punting next year.

Sorry but it Bengals obtaining two quality OL. That would scare me more than anything because Chase, Higgins and Boyd with a competent OL will be a handful.

Was flipping through the channels and caught replay of TB game. Opening kickoff. Bass pooches to right corner. TB returner caught it at 8 or 9 yard line and returns to the 24. Bass did this successfully all year. I was shocked we couldn't execute this at end of KC game. This exact kickoff puts KC in terrible dilemma. KC returner can (1) let it bounce and hope it rolls into the end zone (ball on 25) or out of bounds (ball on 40). If neither happens, game is probably over. (2) fair catch at the 8 or 9 yard line. The extra 15 yards make FG that much more difficult. Of course, you still need to play defense so maybe it goes into overtime in any event. (3) return the ball and break a long return. Absent a long return, game over except for a long Hail Mary. Again, who knows but I'd like our chances defending a Hail Mary.

Thank God we have Josh Allen. When you have Allen, Mahones, Rogers, Burrow or Herbert, you pay them, plain and simple. When you have Mayfield, you don't. It's the tweeners that drive you crazy - Prescott, Carr. Can't live with them, can't live without them. Thank goodness we're not in that boat.

I don't know why so many people want to run Williams out of town. He was terrific at RT in 2020 (anyone remember Jordan Mills' half decade at that position?), he was serviceable at RG in 2021 and better down the stretch when the whole OL performed better. I think his value is that if Dawkins or Brown go down, he can step in at RT. After the JAX game, I was thinking OL Rounds #1 and #2 of the draft. With the way the line played after inserting Bates, I'd be happy with Dawkins (who really turned it up down the stretch), Bates, Morse, Williams and Brown as opening OL next year. Brown had a really rough 4th quarter against Ingram but I believe he has the potential to be All Pro in two years. Obviously, it depends on what we do in free agency but I see us taking a CB #1 unless we make a dramatic move in that direction in FA.

We're not going to go after Scherff, not at $18 million, not at $10 million. I think we'll add depth to the OL with mid-round draft picks. Everyone complaining about "too many high draft picks being devoted to defense" is falling into sunk cost fallacy. Where can we get most help immediately from FA and the draft? I think it's going to be some variation on veteran outside pass rusher on relatively bargain basis (Melvin Ingram?) and help at cornerback and possibly linebacker. Would it be nice to add a #1 round WR or RB? Sure but I just don't see it.

A. A lot. B. Whatever it takes. C. A ####load. Honestly, has a team ever had an easier offseason than the Bengals? $50 million under the cap. Spend it on two quality OL and draft a couple more. On the other hand, I'm not as afraid of the Bengals' cap space as some others on the board. Do you really expect Mike Brown to spend to the cap?

This is an example of the stupidity of having the free agency period before the draft. I don't know how good Davis is but if we resign Phillips to a mulit-year deal at starter money and if we get minimal savings by cutting Star, are we really going to draft a DT in Round #1? I doubt it. Does anyone know the reason why the draft follows free agency? Is it NFLPA (free agents make out better) or the owners? I just don't get it.

How's our 2018 draft grading out? s/

It's not whether the allegations are true or not. It's the appearance of impropriety. Believe me, this lawsuit will continue to get a lot of press and the NFL will try to bury it. I'm not saying I'm in favor of a lottery and I'm not saying tanking works. For God's sake, look at the Sabres. They tanked for a 20% chance to pick Connor McDavid and they're still trying to work their way out of that ####show. In order to successfully tank, you need a lot of things to go right. You need to know your target(s), how likely you will be able to obtain your target, how your target will fit in to overall effort to rebuild team, etc. Some tanks are incredibly successful (Penguins tanking for Mario Lemuiex probably the most famous). Most are not.

It's going to happen. The Flores lawsuit guarantees it.

If McKenzie decides grass is greener elsewhere and we want to move on from Beasley, how about Braxton Berrios from the Jets? Fills slot role, jet sweep role, kick returner role, plus weakens division opponent. No idea what he would cost on the open market. Would it make sense to approach a guy like this and say, "play one year on a below market deal with Josh and you'll hit the open market next year and make a fortune."

What's the rush to dump Williams? His cap hit isn't horrible, at a minimum he's a decent starting guard and if Dawkins or Brown get hurt, he can slide to RT. As bad as the OL was during that mid-season stretch, I wouldn't be disappointed if they rolled with Dawkins - Bates - Morse - Williams - Brown to start 2022. If they can upgrade, terrific, but it's not the crying need it was at mid-season.

This is no comment on Brady other than at LSU, he had Joe Burrow throwing to, among others, Jefferson and Chase and handing off to Edwards-Helaire. That's mind-boggling! So when he has incredible talent, he's a great coach (LSU) and when he has no talent (Carolina), he's a bad coach. Does that mean the jury is still out?