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His backup was some guy named Marty Schottenheimer.

Let's face it. This is going to be a very unusual year. If the defense is solid (and Edmunds plays well) and if there are signs that Allen is the real deal, I really don't care about our record. If the first two things come to pass and our record is really crappy, it means we have problems on the O-Line and/or receiver. Very fixable with cap room and high draft picks. I'm not advocating a tank by any means but if the above two things come to pass, I'm happy no matter what the record is.

Outstanding effort! Nothing but tweaks to original list. My tweak would be Mike Montler over Bemiller. The more Electric Company, the better!

What's crazy and maddening about the play is that at the 30 second mark of the film, the chances of McGee scoring a touchdown on the play have to be about 99%. He's got three blockers in front of him and one Saint left to beat. The Saint gets absolutely crushed and McGee (who has to be absolutely beyond gassed at this point) just has to move a bit to avoid the guy on the ground but gets tripped up trying to go over him. Yes, that is incredibly Billsy!

Really, you watched game film and that's what you got out of it? I've done a 180 on him only because I've watched some film. It was a high risk pick but the more film you watch, you can see that it was also a high reward pick.

I don't think it was a "gut feeling". I'm pretty sure it was watching his tape. Isn't there a big difference between the two?

Cam Newton's career completion percentage is 58.5% and he's got an MVP trophy and a Super Bowl appearance. The more film you see of this kid, the more you have to like him. Bring him along slow, clean up the footwork and maybe we'll have a replacement for Jim Kelly 22 years after he retired!

If we drafted Allen because he's a "cold weather quarterback" or because he "fits the City of Buffalo" we're dumber than I thought we are. If we drafted him because we were looking for a "Cam Newton type" who can run a Carolina offense, then we're still pretty dumb. If, however, we drafted him because he has a lot of impressive physical tools and because in two or three years the FO believes he can be an elite-level NFL quarterback, then we may be pretty smart. Man, NFL executives are idiots.

Pre-draft, really hadn't seen much Allen tape but really hated the pick. Ideally, Arizona outbids us at #7, takes Allen and we make the mini-trade with either 49'ers or Raiders to make sure we get Rosen. I thought Rosen was a much safer pick and that Allen's bust potential was sky-high. Post-draft (still not watching much film), my thinking was that Beane and McDermott rationalized the pick this way (1) Rosen's concussion and injury history must have been a HUGE concern; and (2) being enamored of all things Carolina, they're going to run a Carolina offense and plug in Cam Newton lite to run it (Newton's career NFL completion percentage is less than 59% by the way). This, of course, continues Buffalo's infatuation with strong armed QB's with big hands (Losman, Manuel, Jones, etc.) and ignores the two most important attributes of a modern NFL quarterback - accuracy and ability to quickly process information on the field. After looking at the film however (thanks OP!), I definitely have an open mind and I can see what Beane and McDermott are thinking. The accuracy isn't anywhere near as bad as I thought it would be, yes the footwork needs work and yes 1/3 of Wyoming's pass plays were total jailbreaks (he'll immediately feel comfortable behind the Bills' OL). Sit him for a year, spend next offseason beefing up the O-Line and the receiving corps and you may have something here.

The Bills traded too early, to.

Look at Butler's drafts from one perspective and one perspective only - 2018's QB-centric quarterback uber alles. If you look at his drafts from that vantage point, he was a total disaster. Waited way too long to look for a replacement for Kelly and when he did, he bombed with the Todd Collins pick. He made a very nice pickup with Flutie but then destroyed the value of that pickup by trading a #1 (no. 8 overall if I recall correctly) and a #4 for Rob Johnson and then compounds that mistake by handing Johnson a monster contract before he plays a down with us. John Butler had a lot of great qualities in regard to evaluating talent but one of the reasons for the 17 year playoff drought was Butler's utter inability to evaluate quarterbacks.

I haven't seen any that make me really happy but two I saw today made me really sad. One had Bills giving up both #1's and both #2's to move up to second spot to pick Josh Allen. Second mock had us moving up to #9 to pick Lamar Jackson. Ugh. I understand that they've made all these moves to move up to get a high profile QB and I understand that they'll have to overpay to do it. What I'd hate to see is a scenario where they are grossly overpaying. If the move isn't there for an acceptable price, don't do it. If four (or five) quarterbacks go in the top 11, a very good football player will be there for us.

Let me join the chorus on this topic. If Luck's shoulder is ok, it would be insane for the Colts to trade him for an unproven QB who will be the 2nd or 3rd QB taken in the draft. If his shoulder isn't ok, why would you want him?

Goodness gracious, have you actually watched him play the last two years? What do you think he will look like FOUR years from now? My point is that the Giants are in a position to draft a potential franchise QB at a time when their guy is 36 years old. That's incredibly lucky timing. No way are they going to pass on a QB even if they wring another year or two out of Manning.

The Giants are drafting a QB as well. They've got an aging QB near the end of the road. They crapped the bed at just the right time to get a potential franchise QB in a QB heavy draft. Why in the world would they trade out of that spot?

If one point of this thread is that McDermott is way too conservative to be a coach who wins a Super Bowl (closer to Marrone than Peterson), yeah, I agree 100%. Punting in overtime against the Colts when a tie puts you out of playoff contention? You've got to be kidding. My son and I attended the Jaguars game. I started walking out when we punted on fourth down with a couple of minutes left in the game. Can a coach change from ultra-conservative to something less than that? I sure as hell hope so. How about this? Next preseason, don't punt on 4th and 1 from the opponent's 40 yard line. Maybe don't even punt at all. Be hyper-aggressive and see how it works out.

This.

His tenure at Detroit wasn't a "disaster". He took an 0-16 (0-16!) team and had them in the playoffs in his third year. Oh yeah, a guy named Belichick was a "disaster" in his first HC job at Cleveland. All I'm saying is I'm surprised he is not a top tier candidate for one of the many HC openings in the league right now.

Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen any reports linking Jim Schwartz to any of the head coach vacancies. I think that's nuts. Guy did a great job as DC in Tennessee, did a respectable - not great - job as HC in Detroit, great job as DC with the Bills and great job as DC with the Eagles. At a minimum, you know you're going to get a really good defensive mind if you hire him. One of the Bills biggest mistakes in the last ten years (and God knows there have been enough of them) was not making Schwartz HC after Marrone bolted, or at least throwing a bunch of money at him to keep him as DC and hire an offensive minded head coach. Thanks, Terry!!

Peterman's ceiling is Frank Reich, which isn't a bad ceiling but it's not who you want as your starting QB in a QB dominated league.

I was at that game against the LOS ANGELES Raiders. Nosebleed seats in the Coliseum. Great game. Norwood was awful. Raiders sat on their lead in the second half and it blew up on them. It's 20/20 hindsight but instead of picking Conlan (a terrific player) how about picking Jerome Brown and teaming him up with Bruce Smith to wreck havoc on opposing OL's?

Point two is really a good point. I've seen many commentators talk about how easy NE has had it over the years because of the weakness of the other teams in their division. But look at it from the other side. If Miami, Bills and Jets are starting off the year 0-2, chances of making the playoffs are slim to none and that's been borne out over the last seventeen years.

Hey, this gives Hue Jackson a shot at obliterating Harvey Johnson's record as worst head coach of all time. Harvey was 2-23-1 in two interim stints with the Bills and if my math is right Jackson is a scintillating 1-27 with the Browns.

If we missed the deadline it is nothing but monumentally stupid.