st pete gogolak

Didn't the 49'ers start two rookie cornerbacks the year that they won their first Super Bowl? Just sayin'.

You clearly don't know what this team is. You think the Bills are in danger. They are the danger. They are the team that knocks. don't know what this team is. They are the team that knocks.

I agree 100% with all the posters who say "wait for the facts to come out". So I preface this with an admission I don't know the facts and this is hypothetical. One, legal drinking age in California is 21. If he served alcohol to a minor, that's a crime (don't know if it is a felony or misdemeanor). Second, age of consent in California is 18. Doesn't matter if she lied about her age, doesn't matter if sex was consensual. If he had sex with her, that's statutory rape. Would a prosecutor zealously go after a 21 year old who had consensual sex with a 17 about to be 18 year old? Probably not. Probably why there isn't a statutory rape case against Azaria pending. Those two points alone, however, are pretty serious stuff. Really can't see him remaining on the team. Whether it's "fair" or "unfair" is besides the point. Going back to football, the Bills were 13 seconds away from hosting the AFC Championship with probably the worst punter in the entire league. Maybe they released Haack because they knew that they could upgrade over him even if Azaria was released. Not sure that's the right call, going into the season opener with a new punter/holder but it sure looks that way.

If McGee had scored a touchdown on the kick return against the Saints it would be in the running for the greatest touchdown in NFL history. What's really frustrating is that if you look at the field when McGee is around the 15 yard line, statistically he probably has better than a 90% chance of scoring. Total fluke that he went down. Oh well, that was the Bills until Beane and McDermott got here.

I couldn't find it online. Does anyone know if the punt would have been a Bills' record if it was a regular season game?

I believe that the majority of Bills' fans were very enthusiastic about Allen after his rookie preseason. I know I was. Not only the TD pass against Carolina but also an amazing TD against the Browns (and Mayfield) showed enormous potential. Remember that most folks thought Allen would sit his first season a la Mahones. Yes, he looked raw and ragged for much of the first season but again, by the end of season one, I believe the vast majority of Bills' fans were very optimistic about next season and see what Allen could do.

Just beat me to it. No where near as dramatic as Karlos Williams but I thought Holmes was going to be solid 2nd back to Thurman with a little more punishing running style. Solid rookie season, great playoff game against Miami, slipped second year and was gone after three.

You stopped right before getting to the really good stuff. In 1942, Hutson, in 11 games, had 74 receptions over 1200 yards and 17 TD's. Respectable numbers in 2021. In 1942, they were ridiculous numbers, dwarfing everyone else in the league, DOUBLING every else's numbers.

I know the rule is post - 1980 but I always go to Fred Swendson in these types of polls. Fred was Walt Patulski's running mate at DE at Norte Dame and was our #3 round pick in 1972 draft. We had first pick in each round and with less teams, first pick in third round back then was pick #53. Today that would basically be mid second round pick. Fred barely made it out of his first training camp and was cut before opening day. To my knowledge, never played a down in the NFL. Top that!

Would you still hate Brady if he had led the Bills to six SB Championships? Kind of a silly question, no?

Keeping Lamonica and trading Kemp certainly would have been controversial. Kemp was coming off two AFL titles and three straight AFL East crowns. Belichick certainly trades Kemp and keeps Lamonica but it's a different age. Plus the Wilson loan to the Raiders and Lamonica causing "locker room" issues, who knows exactly what was behind the trade. Both Powell and Flores were done by the time they got to Buffalo. In hindsight, it's the worst trade in Bills history.

I wholeheartedly agree this could be a great, under the radar signing. His YPC his first couple of years were wide receiver territory, not tight end numbers. Obviously, is he healthy? Can he stay healthy? If he is healthy and can stay healthy, this will turn out very well for us.

The Bills didn't trade Jefferson for Diggs. They traded, among other things, #22 for Diggs. There was no guarantee Jefferson would be there at #22 if that was the guy you were targeting. In fact, he shouldn't have been there. Eagles picked Jalen Reagor - pretty sizable bust so far - at #21.

Really, really hate the idea of trading next year's #1, not just for the Bills but anyone (thought Saints giving up next year's #1 to Eagles was just flat out stupid when there is a good chance it will be a top ten pick). Of course it worked out ok for KC giving up a next year #! to get Mahones. I've seen Gardner mocked anywhere from #4 to #12. If he is there at #10, I'd consider trading #25 and next year's #1 for Gardner. I certainly wouldn't hate it. That would be top offer, however. Wouldn't give up anything else.

If I recall correctly, the thought was that Josh would sit the first year, similar to Mahones. It was pretty universal thinking that he was "raw" and would need time to develop. Despite the numbers I think every single Bills fan was very excited about him after the first year and couldn't wait until opening day the next season. That trend continues. Can't wait for opening day 2022.

Thank God they passed on Herbert.

I keep going back to his first two years in TB. Sixty total receptions averaging 16.6 yards per reception and 11 touchdowns. I realize it's an achilles but even if he is 90% back, he can present a nightmare downfield matchup plus an end zone target. It's a gamble but it's a great risk-reward gamble.

If Zay Jones was making more money than me, I'd be PO'ed too. (Just kidding.)

I really, really like this signing, although an achilles injury is one of those injuries that you may never come back 100%. Takeo Spikes was an absolute great player but never really came back from his achilles injury. I think Sam Cowart was the same. If Howard can come back with 90% of potential he flashed before injury, I think we may have something special. He averaged 16.6 yards per reception each of his first two years in the league. That's insane for a TE.

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I guess they don't plan on punting next year.

Sorry but it Bengals obtaining two quality OL. That would scare me more than anything because Chase, Higgins and Boyd with a competent OL will be a handful.

Was flipping through the channels and caught replay of TB game. Opening kickoff. Bass pooches to right corner. TB returner caught it at 8 or 9 yard line and returns to the 24. Bass did this successfully all year. I was shocked we couldn't execute this at end of KC game. This exact kickoff puts KC in terrible dilemma. KC returner can (1) let it bounce and hope it rolls into the end zone (ball on 25) or out of bounds (ball on 40). If neither happens, game is probably over. (2) fair catch at the 8 or 9 yard line. The extra 15 yards make FG that much more difficult. Of course, you still need to play defense so maybe it goes into overtime in any event. (3) return the ball and break a long return. Absent a long return, game over except for a long Hail Mary. Again, who knows but I'd like our chances defending a Hail Mary.

Thank God we have Josh Allen. When you have Allen, Mahones, Rogers, Burrow or Herbert, you pay them, plain and simple. When you have Mayfield, you don't. It's the tweeners that drive you crazy - Prescott, Carr. Can't live with them, can't live without them. Thank goodness we're not in that boat.

I don't know why so many people want to run Williams out of town. He was terrific at RT in 2020 (anyone remember Jordan Mills' half decade at that position?), he was serviceable at RG in 2021 and better down the stretch when the whole OL performed better. I think his value is that if Dawkins or Brown go down, he can step in at RT. After the JAX game, I was thinking OL Rounds #1 and #2 of the draft. With the way the line played after inserting Bates, I'd be happy with Dawkins (who really turned it up down the stretch), Bates, Morse, Williams and Brown as opening OL next year. Brown had a really rough 4th quarter against Ingram but I believe he has the potential to be All Pro in two years. Obviously, it depends on what we do in free agency but I see us taking a CB #1 unless we make a dramatic move in that direction in FA.