st pete gogolak

That wasn’t a designed rollout. He was flushed out of the pocket and threw against the grain. You wouldn’t do that on a designed rollout.

Like most of the posters here, I hate, hate, HATE the WR screen pass. Especially running it over and over against a D playing man press (KC). When was the last time we ran a “traditional” screen (OL leaks out after pretending to pass block, RB leaks out and has a couple of blockers in front of him when he gets the ball)? Cincinnati ran a couple of nice screens against the Colts. Is it because our OL isn’t athletic? I thought Morse and Brown were athletic enough to get out on in front on a screen. (Shout out to Brown, whose play seems to be much improved). One more rant. Just like Fran Stalinovskovichdavidovitshky is the deadliest woman in the world with a dodgeball, Josh Allen is the deadliest QB in the NFL rolling to his right. Why not have a couple of designed rollouts? Worst that happens is a throw OB if nobody’s open.

Great weekend. One thing from this game is that Hill should be MVP. Fins O is utterly average without him.

If I had to pick a Billsy play from yesterday, it would be Murray taking three steps and then dropping the ball for no apparent reason, somewhat tainting a truly miraculous play from Allen.

This is 100% wrong. No one - NO ONE - thought Jackson should go ahead of Allen. The bias stems from all of the experts who predicted Allen would bust because he wasn't accurate in college. Many - not all - won't get off that train.

I started this thread to make a point, probably not very articulately, that the refs have way to much say so in the outcome of games and given the amount of money now bet on NFL games that can be very dangerous indeed. Can their influence be diminished? I think it could. Eliminate ticky tack calls on PI, defensive holding and illegal contact, reduce the severity of certain penalties, be more consistent as to what offensive holding is, etc. Not sure there is the will to get this done as long as the money keeps rolling in.

I’m hoping for a Jim Lee Howell situation redux. First step is to see if Brady is the real deal as OC. Hopefully, we’ll know by the end of the season. Second, hire a young aggressive DC who won’t play a soft zone at the end of one score games. McDermott stays as HC. Who is Jim Lee Howell? He was NY Giants HC during the late 50’s. His DC was Tom Landry and his OC was Vince Lombardi!

**** you Amazon and your ever buffering mother****ing streaming service. Can’t wait for the game on Peacock.

Wow. That sucks.

If anyone other than OP agrees with this, you should let him know. Punting from the 31 yard line with a 10 point lead would be the worst “Preposterous Punt” (credit to Greg Easterbrook) in Bills’ history. Worse than Gregg Williams punting from Pats’ 30 yard line way back when.

Please. Philly selects Jefferson and instead of Diggs we get Justin Reagor. Or do you have a crystal ball come draft day?

I think we need a young Alec Baldwin to come into the locker room to give his Glengarry Glenn Ross speech. Always Be Closing!!!

KC game I was all for going for 2. You win or lose in regulation and force Bills D to actually play defense if you don’t convert. Different situation with Philly. If you’re successful on the 2, plenty of time for Philly to march down field for the win. Making it a 3 point game, makes Philly play conservative and settle for FG attempt.

Want to be fair. D had big stop last year to win KC game. Other than that, has D made a late stop to win a game (I guess you can include NYG game this year but what a cluster bleep that was)? Honest question.

Bingo! Agree 100%. McDermott is scared to death of giving up the big play at the end of tight games and I really believe it goes back to the Hill TD.

So, the consensus is that the play is unstoppable and if the Eagles are in 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 you just concede the yard or the TD?

Can anyone put the Brown and K Allen plays up together? Interested to do a side by side comparison.

I laughed out loud when I saw Taron Johnson on the field for the Tush Push TD, all 170 pounds of him. You’ve got 8 DL. Put them on the field. At least make the Eagles do something other than push the ball up the middle. I don’t blame McDermott. Not a single HC does anything other than concede a first down or TD to the Eagles.

I shouldn’t have said “clutch”. Posters who have indicated you can’t have the most clutch kick in the regular season are 100% right. Has to be playoffs or Super Bowl. How about “most difficult”? Hitting a 59 yard FG on grass in the rain is nuts.

Oh vey! Posters fondly remembering the Dick Jauron era (even a little bit)! Jauron wasn’t the worst Bills’ HC of all time but I hated him more than any of the others. Offense wasn’t good. Defense wasn’t good. Special teams were fantastic (thanks Bobby April!). Ultra conservative, good enough to eke out a few wins against bad teams and get absolutely hammered by good teams. No thanks.

I’m as pessimistic as any Bills fan but I’m thinking there is no way this guy is hitting a 59 yard FG in the rain and wind on grass. I think the consensus is that Vinitari’s 45 yard FG in the snow to send the “tuck” game into OT is the greatest, most difficult clutch FG in history. After yesterday, it’s in second place.

Second miss was huge. Maybe the turning point. He makes it and it’s 20 - 7, with the Bills looking dominant. Eagles immediately move down the field for a touchdown and now it’s a brand new game.

Is that the deal now? Give the MVP to the QB on the team with the best record? Thought Hurts was generally awful last night, processing so slowly I thought he might be concussed.

Tend to agree. One thing that may force changes is a ref being caught fixing games for cash. It happened with an NBA ref. It very well could happen in the NFL. Even if it does, 50/50 whether they take any real steps to solve the problem.

I’m not going to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, but with all the money being bet on NFL games, the League HAS to do something to reduce the influence the officials have on game outcomes. Obviously, it will never be reduced to zero, but there has to be a way to at least reduce their influence. Here are my thoughts but very interested if anyone has a thought on this. Defensive PI. Move from spot foul to 15 yards. If “flagrant” PI becomes an issue, tinker with the rule the following year. Illegal contact. Increase area for contact from 5 to 10 yards. Eliminate ticky tack fouls. Contact has to be substantial and reduce receiver’s ability to contest for a catch. The call on the Eagles last night in the second half gifting the Chiefs a first down was a travesty. Defensive holding. Again, eliminate ticky tack foul. Holding has to reduce receiver’s ability to contest for a catch. Offensive holding. At least be consistent. Sick of refs determining outcomes. Thoughts?