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I’d take him over AJE

Combination ?

Well, phew, as I am glad I don't do what you say in part above.. Like years ago when I was so happy, as he 'progressed" here, that EJ Manuel was beginning to throw the ball 'in the vicinity' of receivers, getting the ball consistently within 2-4 feet of them. We were saved.

I think we know more than you may realize... We know Diggs wasn't the same in Brady's offense and also had some big drops. We know that Palmer is seen to have better hands, bigger route tree, better route runner, and more consistent at getting open than Davis has been. We know Keon was on pace as a rookie before he got hurt in week 11 to hit 800-900 yards and 7+ TD's. And this was despite not being a full time starter, playing in a spread the ball around offense that saw Allen connecting with 8 to 10 different receivers most weeks. We know Shakir is a better player in 2025 than he was in 2023. We know Samuel is better than Sherfield. We know Moore is better than Harty. So yes, we haven't seen the group on the field yet...nothing is certain...but its more than reasonable to think our WR situation is better today than when Gabe Davis last walked off the field playing for the Bills.

Here's what is returned when the word track you used is input into google: When someone is "propositioned," it means they have been asked or suggested to engage in a sexual act, often in a direct and sometimes offensive manner. It's a way of saying someone has been asked to have sex by someone who is not in a relationship with them. The part I wasn't understanding was why you, an outraged citizen, wouldn't have reported that type of behavior to the police. I asked that question earlier, but you must have missed it. Now, since you've clarified to include 'commericial purposes', I'd think it's much more benign than what you initially seemed to imply. I agree that it's a cheesy thing to do, and James O'Keefe is as 'meh' as most undercover journalists tend to be. The war memorial visit is in very poor taste. Manipulation is par for the course at O'Keefe, at NYT, WaPo, CNN, Fox, etc. Still, children are used in commercials for just about every commercial venture ever, and in most political campaigns. It's kind of hard for me to muster outrage here.

What are you "hearing about" from him? Him posting a picture of him and Josh celebrating? The guy wants to be paid market fair market value (of which you're lowballing). So what? I'll never understand fans like you that get personally offended and lash out over business. If he was talking crap about Josh or the team like Diggs, i'd get it. But all he's ever talked about is his feeling he should be paid more. He should. And It's not your money. I don't get why you're so angry as to be constantly personally insulting him. Brandon Beane isn't bothered or angry about it. Why are you?

Great take, Josh doesn’t need #1s because we’re going to run the ball down team’s throats and make underrated receivers have the best yeats of their careers. With our defense improved, I’ve never been more optimistic.

Another Springsteen redo:

10M would be a steal for what he gives us. The only other RBs that would give us James’s ability to get skinny inside and then make second level guys miss on top of that is a first round talent, never mind whatever you might think of his big play ability on the outside or in the passing game. Personally, I’d rather pay James and continue to use our best draft capital on the lines or to replace valuable starters as need dictates.

21 pages and zero activity since released. I mean I get it.

We don’t know if Palmer has any business starting as WR2 or if Coleman does either at this point. this group hasn’t played and we have new additions. you would always take the new group that hasn’t played over the old group that has. Its like saying “who would you pick to win the Super Bowl, the 2023 Bills or the 2025 Bills?” We already know the result of one outcome.

He would be the lowest paid WR on the Bills if we signed him for what NE paid him. That is cheap, even if you think that is an over pay by NE...the actual cost of the contract is cheap and one we could have easily paid if they wanted to keep him.

Then screw him. I'm sick of this clown and talking about a position you just keep putting guys in as they come along. I wish Beane had traded him so we could quit hearing about his ass already.

"Nobody is above the law" Yes Leticia we agree 😂

Bills rushed for about 400 more yards on the season. I think Brady’s schemes will help Palmer more because our offense is more balanced. Everybody eats. I hope with this post you’re not trying to argue Herbert is better than Allen.

Was really talented, could have been a very good pro IMO.

I'm pretty sure Josh outweighs him

That is what happens when you are having a discussion in an offseason heading into a season. Kind of the point of convo right? And its not all hope, we know enough about our guys returning and the ones coming in to get a reasonable picture of what they are capable of and which group has more perceived ability and overall talent across the whole room. How about we stay on topic...discussing the guys who actually played in 2023 (not Emmanuel Sanders and not 2022 Diggs). Can you just have a rational conversation ever without exaggeration and sensationalism? No one was saying Shakir was the next Diggs so stop. And we are talking about what WR room was better...the one that played in 2023 and the one we are set to play with in 2025. Bringing up what hope people had for Sherfield and Harty has nothing to do with the end known quantity of the 2023 group and comparing that to the 2025 group. So let me sum this up: You trashed everyone not named Diggs in 2023 in Davis, Shakir, Sherfield, and Harty...both now and all of 2023. And you know full well Sherfield and Harty couldn't even make this roster right now. And you said Davis is terrible and a failure as a WR2, so he couldn't even get his old job back here, if they even would bring him in, would be at best a WR4/5 today here. But somehow all that hate, all those scrubs as you called them...you still want to spend all this time to argue that the 2025 room isn't better? 3 of the 5 guys from 2023 couldn't get their rosters spots back from this group, and 2 of them would have no chance to even make the roster. Its all subjective...this group hasn't been on the field yet. But for me personally, there is 0% chance I would choose the 2023 WR room over the 2025 WR right now. A declining Diggs who didn't fit this offensive style here was NOT enough to carry that group and elevate that group above what I believe this group to believe. I like our chances to win a SB a lot more with this offense than that offense.

Maybe Eastern Orthodox might make more sense.

Meanwhile, at the Nance residents

Ahh, the annual rite of spring.. the Clowney thread.

— Home Regular Season finale hopefully NOT on friggin’ Christmas Day.

I do miss the 1:00 games so much. We do a pretty big tailgate that probably ranges from 20 to 100 in any given week. Usually we are probably 30 to 50 but it’s a lot of work. There are 4 of us that rotate hosting so we each take 2 games. It’s a ton of work to prepare and set up. It’s so hard for certain night games. If it’s a Monday or Thursday I just blow out of work at like 11. We are breaking it all down in the dark and it just sucks. I get home at like midnight - 1:00 and still have to empty the car. I may or may not be a few drinks in depending on if Jessica came and drove. It’s just miserable. Leaving the house at 7:30 - 8 AM for a 1:00 PM game is 👨‍🍳💋. We are set up by 9. We break down at 11:45 and are in the stadium by 12:30. We have a drink and are in our seats by the time that they run out. We either bring Italian home for dinner or hit up an Italian restaurant on the way home. It’s just perfect. Eff night games