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Feels like Derrick Henry has that many against the Bills alone, but I like your point!

You guys have gone way too far into the weeds on this thread. The purpose of the original post and follow up is to demonstrate Ben Johnson is NOT the answer to the Buffalo Bills / McDermott when you consider McDermott's record as head coach and players genuinely enjoy playing for him. Vs. Those on this Board who were clamoring for BJ last season because he was a "genius". 31 other teams would be on the phone to hire McDermott immediately if he was let go.

I watched both Bears games, and aside from not telling his kicker to kick the ball out of bounds (which he should have done), the losses were certainly not on Ben Johnson. 1) Caleb Williams just isnt that good yet (if he ever will be). 2) The Bears roster is rough at several positions. So you speaking of the nice situation he had in Detroit is ironic, because if we are having this conversation in the context of what he could have done in Buffalo, it would be wise to mention that he would have had an equally rich situation in Buffalo as he did in Detroit, thanks to Josh Allen (who is worth about 5x what Goff is) and James Cook. That being said, I never wanted McDermott fired ,so its a moot point. But your argument doesnt hold water.

More in the sense that I don’t trust guys like Milano and Johnson to stay healthy. Just seems like we have a bunch of guys on the Back 7 that hold a 20% chance every game, to miss the next game.

I use dry shampoo in case of this very specific scenario.

I'm torn between saving the Bills for later, or just going with this one. I feel like if the Bills keep winning, they may eventually get tripped up by a team that should be an easy win.

One thing is for sure: GM Beane has to go heavy on defense again in next Summer's draft and free agency.

imagine if they found you in the shower... oh yeah. it doesn't take much to set off crazy.

I’m not. You come off as the sort that would say things like “nobody saw this coming” and “the motive is unclear”.

Any concern about the visor causing some glare and vision differences for Josh? Simply, he's not use to it and IMO it has to cause some differences for him.

Who he is is this: Goff with Rams (5 years): 42-27, 18171 yards, 107 TD, 55 INT, 63.4%, rating 91.5 Stafford with Rams (5 years): 36-23, 15243 yards, 98 TD, 45 INT, 65.9% rating 95.6 Goff with Detroit: (5 years): 40-26, 17446, 121 TDs, 40 INT, 68.3%, rating 101.2.

This is exactly the sort of word salad you'd expect from a very intelligent person who can't figure out why they suck.

We wore leather helmets back when I played football (or something like that) - a great thing because, as a receiver and safety, I hated anything obscuring my vision even in the smallest way. Weirdly, I had poor eyesight and wore glasses yet I didn't like wearing glasses in games because I didn't like the rims obstructing my sight. A visor would have driven me crazy with the hint of glare. So I'm glad for #1 because Josh has already adjusted to the way the visor affects his vision. #2 and #3 remain problems. But I don't think heat or reverberation will bother him when he's in the pocket, scanning the field, in the flow, and entirely focused on the play.

This, more than anything, tells you what Lions players think of Ben Johnson

BullBuchanan: "There is zero and I mean zero evidence that anything related to LGBTQ in this killing. They were just roommates. I don't care about your feelings."

We have a mini bye coming up and then another in a few weeks. Perhaps everything works out for the stretch after that. So far, nothing looks long term.

Might not mean much. The Cowboys held them to 24 and Barkley to 60 yards.

Kirby, respect your ball knowledge, but Williams had an 11 game chance last season and he didn't "take off" as far as I can tell. Bills were still adjusting their D to cover for him. He's athletic and he can *thump*, but as someone said upthread: "when he can play a downfield, attacking style he's a playmaker. But when he has to read and react, he's illiterate." Bernard had a much better year in 2023. Why? Well, in 2023, Bernard started next to Milano and looked great for 4 games. After a 2 game Dorian Williams experiment, the Bills started Dodson platooned with Poyer on passing downs. Dodson not nearly as athletic as Williams, but could read and react. That's one difference. Last year IMO, Bernard spent 12 games thinking for 2 people, himself and Dorian Williams. He's a quiet guy who takes responsibility on himself, but when Milano came back he said something that I thought spoke volumes. It was something like "it's nice to play next to someone who sees the game the same way I do." But then Milano was rusty AF and many thought Williams had been playing better, so there was that. I think Williams has improved, but curious how many games we need to see this "taking off" phenomenon? He looked fine against the Jets, but their QB didn't seem to make us have to think too much.

@BullBuchanan just waiting for that updated article pinning the death of Charlie on all those pesky right wingers?

That run against SF in the snow last year is up there.

Yep, I posted this in the Tyler Dunne/Caleb thread. Waldron refusing to coach the kid last year really sandbagged him. Great clip by Brady.

It's been 2 games

I'm more concerned that a subset of the TQ (not so much LGB) community, previously on board with the don't be intolerant and only judge us by our sexuality mantra, that now seems to be increasingly obsessed with militancy, violence and crime in general. Is it worth asking questions as to what has happened over the past 15 years or so or to just shrug it off?

WHEN we were all starving for ANY semblance of order, quality, professionalism, intelligence, capability, etc.during the entire, endless lost years of this Millenium, I was with you. But NOW, the Bills are not, no almost never, inflicted with that stumbling, bumbling, fumbling idiocy! And they are led by a freak player- should be not be injured, will likely get to the point of being in the GOAT conversation of not just QBs… but players in NFL history! Given the prior substandard playoff performances by the D, it is normally ALL about him! Therefore, I do not want, for the sake of 2 who cares yards, taking a game/season or career ending stupid hit! Play smart 17! The Lombardi is just over the curve of the road. It is no time for a FUBAR!

Annoying to be down Oliver & Milano, but the Dolphins just put 2/5ths of their OL on IR, so I’m not going to complain too much. Re: Milano, it just makes me worried long term. This Defense has a ton of potential, but alot of relies on certain guys… Rapp, Milano, Taron, Bernard, Benford, Bosa staying healthy. Two games in and we’re already having to deal with missed games from Taron Johnson and Matt Milano. That being said.. very quickly it seems clear that the key to this defense is making sure Bosa and Benford are healthy in the Playoffs. We’ve never had a Bosa type power player at this level for the playoffs and Benford hasn’t be available in our Chiefs losses.