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  2. Thanks for posting this. I never read it before. The main (new to me) thing in there was: One (Bills) team source believed that Diggs had grown frustrated with the late-season losses and had suggestions about improving the overall approach to winning that went beyond the specifics of his own role and that his delivery on those thoughts might have gone poorly. Sounds like he was actually trying to get involved in game-planning/team philosophy (or telling the coaches/team what they should be doing instead, according to him of course). Pretty presumptuous for a WR. A lot of QBs are not even afforded that kind of a voice in the team. BIG question: HOUSTON GOT: Stefon Diggs 2024 6th round pick (#189): Houston traded that pick to Detroit, who selected DT Mekhi Wingo (Texans selected LB Jamal Hill with pick 188,one slot before, fyi). 2025 5th round pick (#166): Traded to Cleveland, who traded it to Seattle, who picked WR Tory Horton. Not sure what the Texans ended up with from this pick (too many moves to track). BUFFALO GOT: 2025 2nd round pick (#56): We traded that pick (with others) to Chicago to move up. Picks 56, 62, and 109 for Chicago's 41, 72, and 204. Buffalo ended up with: T.J. Sanders, Landon Jackson, (and after trading Elam and a 6th to Dallas for their 5th and a 2026 7th) we got CB Jordan Hancock, (and after a second trade with Chicago) we got Deon Walker, and finally Dallas' 2026 7th round pick. Chicago ended up with draft picks: OT Ozzy Trapilo, DT Shermar Turner, LB Ruben Hyppolite, and CB Zah Frazier. Dallas got: Kair Elam and OT Ajani Cornelius in the draft. So, it is very convoluted and it is not easy to just say this is what we got for Diggs, but here is the overview of assets given and assets gained from the Diggs trade and then the two subsequent trades made with the pick we got from Diggs. BILLS GAVE UP (to three teams: Houston, Chicago, and Dallas) the following: Stefon Diggs Kair Elam 2024 pick 189 (6th): DT Mekhi Wingo (selected here) 2025 pick 56 (2nd): OT Ozzy Trapilo 2025 pick 62 (2nd): DT Shermar Turner 2025 pick 132 (4th): LB Ruben Hyppolite 2025 pick 166 (5th): WR Tory Horton 2025 pick 169 (5th): CB Zah Frazier 2025 pick 204 (6th): OT Ajani Cornelius [more part of the Elam trade] BILLS RECEIVED the following: 2025 pick 41 (2nd): DT T.J. Sanders 2025 pick 72 (3rd) DT Landon Jackson 2025 pick 109 (4th) DT Deon Walker 2025 pick 170 (5th): CB Jordan Hancock [more part of the Elam trade] 2026 Dallas 7h round pick [more part of the Elam trade] I bolded the main elements that were basically the Diggs trade only. So to be more concise (but not exact), you could say we basically got T.J. Sanders in the 2nd for Diggs, a 5th (Horton), and a 6th (Frazier). In the long run, it looks like we gave up a lot more than we got overall. But I don't really care about losing Diggs and Elam. So, for me, it will come down to how will the 5 draft picks we made/will make stack up against the 7 draft picks we gave up. One last way to look at the trades is via value. if you look at draft value chart, the Bills picks equals 820.4 on the chart, while the other 7 picks given away equals 726.2 on the draft value chart. So, in value only, we basically gave up Diggs and Elam for the first pick in the 4th round (via draft value).
  3. Moss is a true tippy top end all time great and fairly likable. Diggs wants to be a HoFer but won’t be and is unlikable.
  4. i wouldnt think too hard about it lol moss>>>>>diggs
  5. As a Pats fan I find this whole thread interesting, as it kinda reminds me of Randy Moss with the Pats. He languished in OAK and everyone thought he was was done and a bad influence. gets traded to the Pats, puts up record numbers for a few years... but then things started going south. He gets traded to the Vikings in 2010 after the Pats were unwilling to give him an extension and he was mouthing off a bit in the media. It is interesting to me how both players are perceived very differently by the two fan bases. Moss never won a ring in NE and shot his way out, but Pats fans basically love the guy. Diggs never won anything meaningful in Buffalo and shot his way out, but Bills fans seem way more unhappy with him than Pats fans ever were with Moss.
  6. Good for them. Enjoy the years when they're young. Wait until he/she wants the car keys. They'll wish the kid was 3 again.
  7. If you don't think Slay and the Eagles were trying to orchestrate him back to Philadelphia Ive got a bridge to sell you. He bypassed the NFLs waiver policy and its CBA which his own union agreed to. He and the Eagles 100% broke NFL rules.
  8. Having this thread bumped at same time as the new Hailees pregnant started made my heart sink a little lol Every pregnant girl I see, I assume coin flip odds its Stef's 🤣🤣🤣 Dude been giving Ghengis Khan a run for his $$$
  9. FRANCE LOL LOL LOL Sure looks like Europe was destroyed from within. Cant imagine how that happened.
  10. Any away game in the playoffs is hard. Even Josh’s record is not good. Only the chiefs have managed to win road games in the playoffs The ability to host the AFCCG gives a big advantage to go to the Super Bowl.
  11. "I keep telling you... my Dad is the Hall of Fame quarterback Josh Allen... why don't you believe me?????"
  12. I feel the same way, bro. Anything could happen, but I’m pretty confident about Sunday. Go Bills!
  13. (deep sigh) Again... if Slay can improve our team AND if we don't have to play him in 3 weeks OR in the Super Bowl, why the hell should Beane give him a free pass? Rosenhaus and Slay can go phaq themselves, as can the Steelers and the Eagles. Beane did the right thing. Go look for something else to pick apart.
  14. Neither side has told the complete story, but we do have lots of pieces that give us strong clues. Diggs was a model player for his first couple seasons on the team. No matter how much Vikings fans warned us, we wouldn't listen. We believed that Diggs had turned over a new leaf and matured. But something broke after the Bengals playoff loss in January 2023 (our third straight postseason exit with him on the team), and he threw a fit on the sideline. That was when the weird behavior started. Strange cryptic tweets and comments that seemed to poke jabs at the team and Josh Allen. Missing mandatory minicamp and creating a huge distraction. Money wasn't the problem. Usage wasn't the problem. He was at the top of the NFL in both when everything started falling apart. That's why I've always believed his frustrations just reached a boiling point, with the team unable to advance to the Super Bowl. In many ways, it's hard to blame Diggs for getting upset like that (I know that I have felt exactly the same after those playoff losses). But considering how pathetic his own production was in those games... maybe he should have done more looking in the mirror. On the Bills side, I think they decided after Joe Brady took the reigns at OC that Diggs wasn't really needed anymore... and wasn't worth the distractions. They were shifting to a more run-balanced, check-down/safe offense that refused to force the ball to a WR1. If Beane hadn't traded Diggs when he did, last year probably would have looked like the Eagles/AJ Brown situation this season. As I've said before... the problem wasn't trading away Diggs. His immature nonsense had run it's course. The problem was that we have tried replacing Diggs with players like Curtis Samuel, Keon Coleman and Josh Palmer. The closest we actually came was Amari Cooper, and I'm crossing my fingers that Brandin Cooks can turn out better than anyone is anticipating.
  15. It's 2025 not 1980. Prenatal science has advanced believe it or not.
  16. Add another score to Josh's total
  17. Before we get all excited about us having our next QB, I suggest you listen to John Lennon’s son’s music.
  18. That reveal video with the grainy snowy footage and little snowman at the end.. Can’t lie, had me looking at my phone like women look at Hallmark movies.
  19. Simonstradamus
  20. OK, so I never pre-ordered playoff tickets before but if I go on Jacksonville‘s website since I live in Florida and I buy their wild card tickets and they play the bills at home first round I’m good right? It’s not like I can buy Buffalo Bills wildcard tickets because that’s only if they are at Highmark Stadium, right?
  21. Our 2048 first round draft pick.
  22. That was adorable! Congrats and God bless their little family!
  23. I remember when Pats games used to feel like a dentist's appointment. Something you couldn't avoid & just had to get through. I have none of that for Sunday. They're pretenders, we're the real thing. Unless we give the game away - which I acknowledge is always a small possibility - this won't be that close. They're not a primetime team yet.
  24. Articles out there saying that a discussion about replacing KA will take place after the road trip and return to Buffalo. Most likely, Kekalainen becomes acting GM. See how it goes rest of the season and gauge interest on who'd be willing to step into the breach here. Without TPegs stepping back into the shadows and really opening the purse strings, I doubt anyone who could bring change would even consider the job. The change needs to be wholesale. They need to be allowed to cut bait on bad signings like UPL, stop making 🌴&🌞 excuses and actually make things happen, change the culture of losing / air out the stale fart smell that's been hanging around the franchise for SO effing long.
  25. I do agree w/ this. I think we get a small benefit from losing, in terms of sorry New England, but you ain't beating us in January TOO. But I - and I'm sure all - want both. Sunday, and January. And send the message that you're not as good as you think, and Maye ain't Allen.
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