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Again it takes as much luck as skill to win a super bowl The Giants backed in with nine wins, and then had a miracle playoff run with a helmet catch... The Chiefs have had plenty plenty plenty of breaks over the last four plus years Tom Brady had the tuck rule The Buffalo Bills got wide right Literally everything needs to come together to win a super bowl.. it's so hard I'd almost be willing to bet Patrick mahomes never wins one more

Iraq…. so Al. Wolfgang, JFK. Would you agree we are in the MAGA TRUMP economy now? So you guys can now own and be proud of the results?

Oliver was very good and very disruptive in his limited snaps on Saturday. There have been good reports on him coming out of training camp too. I was the first to criticize him last year for looking unmotivated and playing soft. I'm hoping he came into this offseason with a better mindset and will play a lot better early on.

That's a lot of effort for a preseason game. Someone needs to ask him if we win the Super Bowl in the next decade

Belongs here too. Pelosi 😂 Ma’am, it is long past time to be honest with the American people. On January 3, I requested National Guard assistance, but your Sergeant at Arms denied it. Under federal law (2 U.S.C. §1970), I was prohibited from calling them in without specific approval. That same day, Carol Corbin at the Pentagon offered National Guard support, but I was forced to decline because I lacked the legal authority. On January 6, while the Capitol was under attack and despite my repeated calls, your Sergeant at Arms again denied my urgent requests for over 70 agonizing minutes, “running it up the chain” for your approval. When I needed assistance, it was denied. Yet when it suited you, you ordered fencing topped with concertina wire and surrounded the Capitol with thousands of armed National Guard troops. @realDonaldTrump @SpeakerPelosi @AGPamBondi @attorneypirro @SecDef @GOPoversight @RepLoudermilk

Eagles won shortly after he left. He didn't win until Mahomes. If Allen isn't McD's Mahomes, who is?

Thanks. I would add Brandon Beane (hasn’t found a Josh Allen on Defense) to the list, because several of the “other” votes have been for him, but I think it is too late for changes.

See one of my hometown's major teams win a championship

Thanks - I mean its all just us guessing, so no right or wrong answers here. Fun thread though In terms of a couple of the spots I disagreed with your projected list on - I just think Mitch has played more meaningful games than White and has more similarities in style to Josh than White, plus more experience in this locker room. So for White to unseat him I think he would have to decisively beat him out and I am not sure he shown he can do that yet. But still more time left to prove me wrong. Hamlin is a guy they love, so another guy would have to decisively be beaten out to lose his spot, and I don't see anyone pressing him for his spot at this point. Neither are locks though, so anything can still happen, just haven't seen either pressed enough to think they wont make the 53 personally.

And Andy Reid didn't win a super bowl in over a decade with Philadelphia He always had the tag of not clutch can't coach in the big game But that seems silly now... Sean McDermott is better than some head coaches who have won super bowls It takes as much luck as team talent to win it all I I BILLieve

Depends on if the Bills defense has improved. The offense will be fine and Allen is a special player but as we have seen over the years he can't get the Bills to Super Bowl by himself. It doesn't matter how well he plays. The defense needs to do their part otherwise nothing will change.

He went to 4 Super Bowls prior. He won with an entirely new regime. Not a ringing endorsement. or logic

And there you have it, in your own words even,

So Pelosi just got wrecked. Ma’am, it is long past time to be honest with the American people. On January 3, I requested National Guard assistance, but your Sergeant at Arms denied it. Under federal law (2 U.S.C. §1970), I was prohibited from calling them in without specific approval. That same day, Carol Corbin at the Pentagon offered National Guard support, but I was forced to decline because I lacked the legal authority. On January 6, while the Capitol was under attack and despite my repeated calls, your Sergeant at Arms again denied my urgent requests for over 70 agonizing minutes, “running it up the chain” for your approval. When I needed assistance, it was denied. Yet when it suited you, you ordered fencing topped with concertina wire and surrounded the Capitol with thousands of armed National Guard troops. @realDonaldTrump @SpeakerPelosi @AGPamBondi @attorneypirro @SecDef @GOPoversight @RepLoudermilk

How much does it McD’s coaching mean for Allen now at year 8

You must believe in magic.

John elway didn't win his super bowls till his last 2 years... He was way way over his prime 31 other franchises every year are saying why wasn't it us... Whether it happens in 7 months or in 2 years I believe Josh will get it done

Chain gang and accompanying measurements? I think they are a thing of the past?

I mean if the entire roster in fact that good, they will win at least one, if not several. I will eat my crow happily and it will be a great thing. 8 years down, how many more we have left? 6-7 years?

I think any occupation is worthy. Some people are lucky enough to do something they truly enjoy and many others do their best to get by. That second group are the ones you refer to as losers. I’m more wondering about a low-level government employee spending large chunks of his workday arguing with strangers on the Internet. Sounds like the definition of a loser, doesn’t it?

Read: The Catcher in the Rye

There's a gap between how a lot of Bills fans view our roster outside of QB and how it's viewed nationally. ESPN had us ranked as the #6 overall non QB roster in its power rankings today projecting over the next three years citing Dawkins, Brown, Benford, Shakir, Cook, Rousseau, and Bernard.

Worth noting - Pelosi turned down requests for the National Guard 3 days in advance

I should see if some of these people want to purchase this bridge I have in Brooklyn

Sean’s ass should be on the hot seat. He’s a big culture guy that isn’t building a culture by lamenting Cook not playing in the preseason game before getting extended. Benford, who’s been extended, criticized Cook as well. He should tell Beane, get my AllPro back signed before the next game or risk losing him for the Ravens opener. With a new stadium coming next season, why would they play hardball with a great back who’s 25 years old. All the other players in their walk year have been resigned. Sean does not have the resume to survive a down year plus he’s a defensive coach with arguably the best QB in football. Not saying a defensive minded coach can’t win a SB, but his defense stunk last year, unable to pressure the QB or stop great running attacks.