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BobbyPetrino and Rob Ryan

On Brady, he was fired after less than two years as the Colts OC. Then the Chargers offense the last two years is hardly a passing juggernaut. As for Waldron.... I mean I think you can blame him for the offense. He really struggled to design a scheme for a QB who didn't want to play entirely from the pocket. And he had weapons. As I said I thought they should have interviewed him when they hired Joe as their permanent guy. But he wouldn't be on my interview list now if we had a vacancy.

I agree with both of your sentiments that it's likely both stay and to quiet the anger from fans over both how I see the season ending and they're staying - that we're likely to see some splash moves. Where I disagree though is the idea that they're a package deal. I could easily see a scenario where Beane lets McDermott go. There was even a conversation on the Jeremy White, Joe Marino, Jerry Ostrowski show that discussed what they perceived as a possible rift between the two. I think if Beane felt that either a.) McDermott wasn't getting the most out of what he was giving him or b.) That he could keep his job at the cost of McDermott - he'd pull the trigger. If Beane goes, McDermott will surely go as a new GM would want to bring in their own guy. But I don't think Beane would willingly go down with the ship if he could avoid it. I don't think the bond is so tight that he'd willingly go to the unemployment line if he didn't have to.

I would be extremely surprised if McDermott brought in a defensive coordinator and allowed them to implement anything other than his McDefense.

If the Bills are hiring a new Head Coach to maximise Josh I think it is possible. It isn't what I'd do to be clear, but I don't think it is impossible.

Pretty simple 26… 6th in total offense: 11th in passing 1st in rushing 8th in total first downs 4th in TDs 6th in total points scored (only the Lions and Bills do not have a defensive TD(s) in those 6) 4th in 3rd down conversion % @ 43.3% Not a fan of the play calling but if he actually gets his act together and gets back to what was successful the years prior or at least an attempts, I’m sure Brady will change the tune on many of us calling for a replacement or him to lose his job immediately. Certainly they haven’t been passing the eye test for games as of late but there’s been production. Defense: 15th in points allowed 12th in total yards allowed 1st against the pass (obviously lol) 30th against the run (🤢) 16th in 3rd downs converted (37.9%) 15th in Red Zone conversion (56.3%) 18th in average drive starting field position (31.8) 7th in pressure % / tied 7th in hurry rate 15th in sacks 25th in blitz % (20.0%) Tied 12th in turnovers (7 teams with 13) Fixing the run defense, as hard as it will be, would help this team tremendously. Also reverting back to a fundamentally sound team that takes care of the ball on offense would be a bonus. Something if you refer to @Kelly to Allen’s thread about Josh’s turnovers is nothing to worry about as he doesn’t do it in the playoffs; 0.9% Getting hot is very possible.

Don’t worry, another IR will take care of the numbers, bet. 🙈

Hard to imagine we ended up here when Isaiah Hodgins was available just a short while ago.

Can he rush the passer?

-Sign Gilliam if you insist on having a FB on the roster. Won't cost you that much. - McGovern has had a rough year. I was for trying to re-signing him last off season, but I am in no hurry to do so now. He's going to get like 14 mill and I am not ready to pay him that money. It's time to start saving some money on the line. We can't keep signing these guys to big contracts. If VPG is any good, he can compete for the job with a rookie. There are drafts where you can get the best C in the draft in the 3rd round. I'd much rather do that that sign another big contract with McGovern. Edwards is the same thing. If he takes a team friendly deal, fine, but otherwise I am good going in a different direction there. We have a lot of bad contracts that we have to make up for somewhere and these guys are a place to start. - TJ can go - Knox is either a giant pay cut or should be gone. I am just afraid his relationship with Josh will cloud that situation, but business is business. - Samuel is gone - They seem to have a Bass obsession..... If you can save some money, that should the the #1 priority. - Rapp is kind of the same thing. I think they really like him, but that's a spot that needs a MAJOR upgrade. A second round S should absolutely be a consideration for that spot. This team has rewarded mediocrity because of their whole "Draft, Develop, and Re-Sign" philosophy. Look, it's a good thought to have, but it doesn't excuse you from handing out bad contracts to average to slightly above average talent just because you like the player as a person. It started with a terrible contract to Knox and has showed up way too many times. To win in the NFL, you need STARS. As many as you can get and then fill in the bottom of the roster with whatever. For too long, we have been trying to build a roster that is deep. A roster where the drop off isn't significant from the 1s to the 2s, the 2s to the 3s, etc. They want to be able to sub guys in and out and still get the same level of play. Well, what happens eventually when you do that is sure....you get consistency, but you don't have any alphas to make the plays when you need them. I mean, how many true STARS do we have? Two? Allen and Cook? That's about it. There's nobody on defense that OCs are truly losing sleep over. And aside from Allen and Cook, there is literally nobody that strikes any fear into DCs. We have a bunch of fine players, but really only 2 DAWGS. That's not enough. The focus needs to switch. We need to start improving the top of the roster somehow and if it costs us some quality depth, so be it, but this team needs an influx to top talent.

compensatory pick to the Patriots prolly

Coleman shouldn’t be taking any snaps

starters should still be Palmer, Coleman, Shakir, with Kincaid, Cook

Zero expectations

Any updates?

Wowza, that is a truly sad state and even after trade deadline. Yikes

Everyone keeps thinking the Rams are the best team but I disagree. The Seahawks are better than the Rams. Darnold gave the Rams 14 free points essentially by turning the ball over at their own 3 yard line and their own 25 yard line for two short touchdowns. Then he was driving the Seahawks down the field at another point and turned it over already in field goal range taking away at minimum another 3 points for a 17 point swing in that game. The Seahawks dominated them. That game was in LA also. After Darnolds 4 interceptions the Seahawks still had a chance to win the game and made the game winning field goal only to have a time out called. Then have to re-kick it and miss it. Seahawks had more than twice as many first downs , twice as much time of possession and almost twice as many yards. They will most likely kick the Rams butts in Seattle. As of right now Seattle is the best team. The Rams got lucky against Seattle is all that happened in that game.

You know it kills @leh-nerd skin-erd that his party can't keep their corruption quiet.

This DEI hire is in over his head, right @sherpa?