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Yeah. To me I think a lot of it is they lost the playoff spot to the Reds vs the Phillies. I've been to Cincy to see a Reds game and they had a cool museum there dedicated to the history of the team. They had 4,000 plus baseballs on display for Pete's hits in his career. Was a nice experience overall. Losing to the Phillies just I think would be a lot more painful. Plus the team greatly to me overachieved last year as you said. This year felt like it balanced it out a little. That being said Stearns will be my #1 target as well I will be most critical of going forward. He has to re sign Big Pete and Diaz this offseason.

Oh look at you looking at me…

Put a link to the book. A random Bills memory was Marv Bateman’s 78 yard punt.

Somalis: there is a ton of fraud. I would guess that over half of Somali asylum seekers were already living in refugee camps (awaiting refugee processing from abroad, which is similar but different to asylum), or actually resettled in Kenya or elsewhere. Very often they were living in abysmal conditions, but they weren't immediately fleeing in fear for their lives. Vital recordkeeping is basically non-existent in Somalia, so in many places a date of birth is always given as January 1, with only the year changing. Those granted asylum can petition to bring over family members, so the pressure back home (and sometimes the monetary incentive for those here) is to claim cousins and other people as their children, or someone unrelated as a spouse. And yes, I do believe that Ilhan Omar probably "married" her brother, who was already living legally in the UK. In other words, in no danger.

Congratulations to you Shaw I would buy a copy but I am broke... .

This is a corollary to the Landon Jackson thread so feel free to merge. I looked at the top 19 picks in the 3rd round. I don't have much of a life but I do want to get in the workshop tonight so I just did the top half. That is 19 picks as there were 38 picks. Bills drafted Landon Jackson with the 8th pick in the 3rd round so just about in the middle of this sample. See the table below. These numbers represent snap count percentage for week 4. Data source link below. I have no idea how accurate it is. https://www.footballguys.com/stats/snap-counts/teams?team=ARI&year=2025&type=snap-counts Only two other players have been inactive all four games and only one other has been a healthy scratch - a 49ers LB. The Titans WR has been injured but not on IR. Two had season ending injuries in camp and are on IR. Two had no snaps in week 4 but had snaps in 2 of 4 games. All the others that played in week 4 also played in weeks 1-3. It is data and you can judge it however you want. There is a mix of good and bad teams. There is a mix of positions. My take is that it is reasonable to expect a 3rd round pick that is not injured to be dressing on game day and playing in some capacity.

Honestly, if Shadeur was white, you’d be like, “Shadeur is white??!?”.

lol. Polish name, Wisniewski, somehow got lost in translation during immigration.

TMI @BuffaloBill May I kindly suggest you clean out the history and use incognito mode.

A few guys Mic'd up will give you some insight as how they talked about plays during the game. Josh is the best Bills to do so I have watched. I liked how he explained to guys what he saw. One particular scene is he and Palmer worked over a play where they exchanged each other's view on the play. I know this is fairly common on NFL sidelines, still it makes you feel good that a new comer like Palmer should be getting more in sync with Josh as the season goes on. On the funny side, it sounded like Josh got his butt (right side?) burn on that first-down-run slide. He probably can't wait to slide on the grass turf next year at home. Mrs. Allen may not want to look at hubby's bum for a few days.

Hey Shaw…congrats on the book! I’m curious if you have the big red hard cover book that covered the first 35 years (I think) of Bills history? It included a statistical game by game summary of every game in Bills history up to that time. Your story reminded me that for Christmas one year I gave my dad that book, and inside it, I pinned personal notes and stories/memories of each of the important games we attended together since I was a little kid. My Dad is now 92 and having suffered a significant stroke this year is unfortunately a mental shell of the man he once was. But….he still has that big red book of memories on the shelf in his room. Go Bills!

Knox isn't going anywhere, he's Josh's best friend on the team and is a perfectly servicable (if overpaid) TE2 who does everything well enough.

Hahaha, and Josh’s response…. “Awww that’s nice.”

Arizona or Lions. Saints have a winnable game this week so the otherside of that match up is out this week.

That may have been the most complete game IU has played ever.

There was another thread where soemone mentioned that 3rd and 5 run by Josh just sucked the souls out of the Saints and it wasn't long after that where Rumph came up to Allen and said "I hate you"

I don’t know his contract, but I think Knox is gone in 2026 if he’s not a lot of dead weight if cut. He stays if there is little space created when cutting him.

Y'know, the crowd noise has been there for all years but 2020. It's never been a factor before. Just a reminder that the Bills had the #4 D in the league in 2023 with Bernard at MLB (and Babich involved in the defensive design though not officially DC) and the #11 D last year with Babich as officially DC. In that time, the Bills have changed quite a bit of their defensive personnel. In 2023, the Bills had a core DL of Rousseau-Oliver-Phillips/Settle - Floyd (gap solid, good edge defenders) and an unexciting but assignment sound DB of Douglas-Benford-T Johnson - Poyer and Hyde. The LB corps was sketch with Bernard and Dodson, but they compensated by bringing Poyer into the box on passing downs playing a form of dime. In 2024, the Bills had a core DL of Epenesa-Oliver-DQ Jones - Rousseau (Epenesa not as good against the run) and a transitional DB of Douglas-Benford-T Johnson - Hamlin- and Rapp. Mentally, those safeties are a big step down from Dr Poyer and Mr Hyde. And, Douglas was losing a step. They were not playing Johnson all the time, and playing more base D and (I think) more Dime. The LB corps of Williams and Bernard was also a step back. Now we've got Bosa, who has one wondering, was he ever expected to set the edge against the run? Oliver has been out for 3 games so a rotating cast of who? at DT. Again Williams, who I don't think is playing as well as last year and last year he struggled to be in the right spot. Bishop is being given every possible chance to earn the starting safety spot, but it's clearly a learning curve for him. Communicating the play call only goes so far if the Jimmies and Joes have trouble reading what the offense is doing and translating that into their proper response with that play call, or if they're busy thinking about it instead of playing fast with instinct.. The play calls are seldom "you - do this!" they're always a flowchart of where the player is supposed to be and what his responsibilities are depending upon what the offense actually does/how the receivers actually run their routes etc. This is a transitional year for our defense, and several of the players we were counting on to anchor the transition are in the body-and-fender shop. Several of the players we were counting on to improve the D, aren't out there. @Simon I think it was, pointed it out: the defense can compensate for 1 or 2 missing starters or guys who aren't quite as assignment sound as you'd like. But once it mounts up to a point, it's Bad News. This is just my impression and I could be wrong, but I think Hamlin was more of a factor last year to the DB being assignment sound. Physically, he's a limited player and him playing deep cost us yards, Mentally, he knew the system completely, knew where he was supposed to be and I think, kept Rapp in system. Now we have Rapp trying to keep Bishop in the right place, which has elements (in my opinion) of the blind leading the blind. Weren't you the one who argued that the loss of 1 or 2 starters can be compensated, but when it mounts up at every level of the defense, it's a problem? The problem with integrating younger and newer players into the system where you may be right about whistling, is that it's an unknown whether their knowledge of the system and ability to read and react correctly will sharpen up with game time and repetition, or whether they're just not going to get it.

How can you not absolutely love this guy?

"Maybe he was trying to say mayonnaise?"

Gag me

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Nah…the Illini didn’t play a game two weeks ago. 🙄

I guess my point is that it is the same base defense and philosophy quite honestly I am less into the cover 2 or 3 and more looking for being aggressive up front. I think McD prevents the big play in a more passive defense i think when you have Josh Allen you can take far more chances and be far more aggressive with your defense than when you have say Justin Fields or Joe Flacco... so we can talk zone scheme cover scheme whatever scheme you want my issue is 1 the lack of effectiveness overall 2. The lack of aggressive play go ahead and get beat deep you have Josh but to sit there and suffer through these long drives 3rd and long completions hoping to hold the other team to a FG while we score TDs falls flat and in my opinion needs to change

I understand. If you want to talk about Josh Vs Lamar and playoff success in this thread that's totally fair. I just don't know why it was brought up to me when my comment was on Lamar isn't faking an injury. But A hammy pull is a hammy pull. That's not a bump or bruise. Josh or any nfl player would also be missing time with a pulled hamstring. Theres nothing you can do to push through with that injury