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This is just a primer. Can you imagine next week's thread against the Patriots?? 🙂

I'll try to make a few points. I am grateful Beane and McD came to Buffalo. They absolutely turned around a losing team and organization. There's no denying that and any football fan has to acknowledge that. Beane hit a "Grand Slam" when he drafted Josh Allen. It was anything but a sure thing and it clearly had risks. However, I take exception to "let the man fix the issue..." Really? This is year nine of Josh Allen. It's not year 3, 4, or 5. How much success have the Bills had in the playoffs? Recently, what would you consider the about average moved that Beane has made? Is it draft choices, WR moves, contract extensions, and or defensive players? Imho, it mostly inadequate and poor moves. The Josh Allen factor really shouldn't be minimized. The guy from year 3 to year 8 literally carried the team on his back. Remember, how all the pundits would say too much reliance on Allen, he needs help, etc... Allen alone got gets this team almost to the playoffs a playoff birth yearly. It's really not a stretch to say that. As a result, changing coaches and a GM after a near decade of playoff failures isn't extreme. I'd add it really not all that risky. Remember, you have Josh Allen. Lastly, I take exception to the general theme of the drought years. It sucked big time. I think many accept the recent playoff failures because heck it's better than before. Many happy with regular season wins and a playoff win or 2. The standards should be much higher. You have Josh Allen. Build around him. That's where the organization has failed. 13 seconds is a clear example of neglect and incompetence. I'd argue the team has never recovered from that disaster. The time for change has long passed. The Beane and McD has stalled. It's lost its luster and glory.

This is a reasonable take with sound logic. I think that offense is worse. They still have a crap OL. They still have some nice targets to throw to. But Joe Mixon of a few years ago > Chase Brown. I don't think we need to focus on the run as much this go around. True. But he's got that really cool spinning throw he made in warm ups.

imagine instead of spaghetti, it’s a footlong hotdog from 7-11 with chili and nacho cheese! Almost better than going to Bills Eagles 😂

I think what makes stat/story compelling within the broader game is the notion that this is no longer the same Bengals team that owned us offensively. Combine with the prevailing thought that our defense is ascending. Historically, even with time to devise a new game plan, we have just not been able to do anything vs Burrow, who from my view is basically the mold of a QB you want vs a McD defense. He will take the 5 yards all day, deliver with accuracy. Rinse and repeat. So while the game certainly won’t be decided on the first drive, if Burrow just carves us up I think that will be rather telling.

Lack of evidence = evidence that we don't like. See also Biden, Joe corruption.

Please explain further.

I was at that game. And I'm absolutely still scarred and have PTSD to this day. Then as the game was wrapping up and I'm sitting there with snow accumulating on me, there were thousands of Bengals fans in the lower bowl whooping it up. What a sad sight.

I would hope that the players are motivated by this saga, they have lost their team mate of three and a half years and his replacement isn’t going to show up! Maybe this situation can galvanize them and not distract them for the upcoming game at Cincinnati and the rest of the season. From an overview type of perspective, the thing that bothers me is the “player X does not want to come and play in Buffalo” is now again in the media cycle. Will this ever change?! As Slay is quoted, “I talked to them,” Slay added. “It was a neutral talk. I just said, “Hey, man. I’m 34. I know ya’ll be watching tape, but I’m trying to relax with my family and kid. I ain’t feel like packing up, moving.’ And then, on top of that - no offense to Buffalo — it’s cold as hell in Buffalo. I’m from the south.”. Yet Philadelphia is fine! https://x.com/jennwilliams23/status/1996267499256774713?s=20 Brandon Beane's latest blunder causes Bills' embarrassing CB screw-up

172 yards on the ground was cincys 2nd highest total of the year. Buffalo also had more penalties and lost in time of possession by about 8 minutes. Fact is dorsey was gone midway through the next season because he would fall into bad pass heavy habits. Frazier was literally fired for this game plan. As for their defense bottling up buffalo - Reader gone Bates gone Pratt gone Wilson gone Hilton gone Hubbard gone Hendrickson out Hasn't been that long but teams change pretty quickly in the NFL.

One of the Buffalo radio stations started playing all Christmas on Black Friday. That's a bit much for me, but playing more and more Christmas music is fine with me as we get closer to the holiday. I have a large collection of Christmas music on CDs as well several playlists on Amazon Music, from classical to country to bluegrass to novelties like the original Chipmunks "Christmas Don't Be Late" to "I Yust Go Nuts at Christmas" to "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer".

He's played the Bills exactly twice (excluding the Damar game)

That son of a *****

I remember that. It was the last time the Bengals made the playoffs. Anything might happen this weekend, but it will have nothing to do with what happened a few years ago. I’m not seeking gloom and doom, I’ll just wait and watch the game.

The Bills would owe Darius Slay approximately $350,000 for 2 months work. I wouldn't go either.

I mean I am sure he discussed it with McDermott but making moves on the waiver wire is 100% Brandon Beane's role and not Sean McDermott's. The only 34 year olds that ever help you "go for it" are vet QBs. No other 34 year old is a reasonable all in move.

It’s not a prediction post, the Bengals are certainly different. I don’t think the Bengals offense is materially worse and despite a week to prepare for all three games, we couldn’t force an incomplete pass. So yes, it will be interesting to see how the first drive goes from my perspective.

Considering they only shoot off fireworks when we score, I hope you are correct.

Yes. i often asked why Elam was on the roster because he sucked and was never active. Turns out he really sucks and is borderline out of the league. The answer is that Beano thought Elam and Ingram were NOT worthless players, otherwise they would have been dumped long ago. He was clearly wrong on Elam.

I like this to infinite. They are the ultimate bandwagon fans and are so annoying to listen to. Like you said, zero Patriot talk for the last 4-5 years, now they are experts on the Diggs and Cardy B. relationship. Ask them about their last playoff game and how that went and they will say "Brady was awesome".

Who?😂

Hopefully that works. I just have a feeling it’ll be a lot of fireworks on Sunday

Daryl Lamonica.

This is kind of silly isn't it. Last game was over two years ago at Cincinnati. Game was 21-7 at halftime. Bengals scored three points in second half in 24-18 win. Really different teams now. People are scarred from the 2022 playoff game (in January 2023) at home. Bills were emotionally spent after all the weather issues that year and, of course, what happened to Hamlin. And after the game Burrow was smoking cigars and acting like an a-hole, so the PTSD is understandable. Hopefully players that were on the team then remember. But this Bengals defense is a shadow of what it was two years ago, and none of this is predictive of what will happen Sunday IMO. But I could be wrong. 😎