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The Quote 100% reads Andrew Luck to me. When being a QB is more work than fun - it may be time to re-evaluate. Luck had so much rehab and time away - it became no fun and he needed the break. I can totally see Burrow the same way - he has been injured multiple times and missed the playoffs when healthy. Sometimes you need a change - even if minor to refresh and get you back into the mindset and sometimes you need to step away.

yep I brought this up in the GDT right after it happened! Hell of a play by him.

The saving grace is the reads Maye makes, the way you can see he reads the field, and most importantly the way McDaniel is able to work with him - Patriot ***** stains will think they were right all along. Maye has a solid chance at a good career. His floor is Tannehill (who honestly gets too much hate). Right now he is a flash in the pan like Pennington was for a moment. He has the chance to reach McNair levels of hysteria soon. At best he will be a slinging game manager like Drew Brees or Dan Marino. That is literally, at best.

Allen is the best dual threat QB the NFL has ever seen. The dude scores TDs at an unheard of rate. By the very definition of MVP as Most Valuable Player, Josh Allen should probably have won it every year for the last 6 years. And Josh was the Josh we know now in year 3, not 4. But there's revisionist history on his 2nd year because he certainly started resembling the Josh Allen we know right now in 2019. Maye might be "in the running" for MVP, but realistically I don't think he has a shot to win it. It's going to be Stafford or (sorry to burst your bubble) Allen. The latter depends on what he does in the next 4 games. Stafford, however, has never won an MVP. He's also the league leader in the NFL in total TDs at 35. For context for you Patriots fans... that's 10 more TDs than your boy Drake. Josh Allen is right on Stafford's heals at 34 and he probably has the same narrative of "look at the guys he's throwing to! He's doing it all by himself" going for him... and that would be true. However, Stafford still gets the leg up because he's never won it and the voters will surely want to give him one. And I want to reiterate something here... I like Maye and really wish he weren't on the Patriots. He's a good QB and scares me as a Bills fan more than any other QB in the AFC East since Brady left. But he ain't Allen. He ain't Mahomes. He ain't Lamar. Drake's having a MVP like year in his 2nd year, huh? That's nice. Maybe it took Josh 3 years to put up an MVP like year, but pretty stark difference of Josh's 3rd year to Drake's 2nd. 2020 Josh Allen 310.3 yards per game 2.8 TDs per game 1 turnover per game 2025 Drake Maye 287 yards per game 1.9 TDs per game 0.6 turnovers per game Just did yards per game there because Maye's 2025 season is incomplete, but Josh Allen in 2020 was just a few yards short of 5,000 total yards and had 45 TDs. And he did it in a 16 game season. The more you look back at that season, the more bewildering it is that Josh only has 1 MVP... because he's done similar things in every ensuing year. He's always somewhere around 5,000 total yards and always over 40 TDs now. Maye ain't sniffing that kinda production. And by the way, even in Allen's 2nd year, he still had 29 TDs and 3,600 yards in 15 games since he took a total of 7 snaps in a meaningless week 16 game against the Jets... so if Maye can't get 5 or more total TDs in his next 2 games against the Bills and Ravens, he's no better than 2019 Josh Allen in terms of scoring production. Is our bar really so low this year that we really think Drake Maye should win the MVP???? C'mon man...

on the TD pass to Shakir, I’ve seen some analysts speculate that it was going to Shavers. I’ve watched the play over and over and the case could be made that Josh did not have enough zip on it to get it all the way to Shavers. If you watch the play, Shakir comes into the scene late and cuts in front of Shavers.

Gas will be more soon. He really wants that Venezuelan oil. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/10/us-venezuela-oil-tanker-seize.html

yes it is. 5 a month

Bills 33 Pats 26

The only thing is if the game is in Jacksonville it will have 70 percent bills fans in attendance.

Naa, what some fans say is that "all" teams have injuries! What those fans don't get is that this team keeps winning! Even at 9-4 and after a huge win, some fans are still talking about replacing this HC or GM. Get a clue, fellas, as this owner isn't about to fire the best thing that has happened to this team in decades. He looks at his other team and says YIKES! For the life of me, I can't figure out why some fans talk like this.

Bills 38 Pats 20

I heard he unloaded a truck full of kittens with a pitchfork too 🤪

He needs to understand he isnt always gonna win.

I'm going to start three more Burrow threads

Not the question I asked. Nice deflection. What were Gorsuch's? To stick with the quantifiable, her academic credentials are superior to his, no matter how you slice it. She made law review--he didn't. Despite working 20-30 hours/week on law review as an editor (no matter how she got on), she graduated with the same honors he did. The dirty little secret conservatives don't want to admit is that there are so few of them at elite educational institutions that they can almost instantly become public stars on the right, either on the bench or at think tanks. Smart liberals are relatively a dime per several dozen in those spaces. In his case, having a mother who was a Cabinet secretary under Reagan (a political nepo baby, if you will) certainly didn't hurt. Full disclosure--I was in his law school (and, coincidentally, also college) class. He was considered smart, but not brilliant. Obama (who graduated magna despite working 40 plus hours/week as LR EIC) was widely considered brilliant by people on both sides of the aisle. Didn't know Gorsuch in college, but did know him socially in law school through mutual friends (including Ken Mehlman, former RNC head who ran W's 2004 "Guns and Gays" campaign that maligned gay people to whip up the base--of course, 5 years later Ken comes out of the closet--and says "oops!") and got along with him on a personal level even if my politics are very different (much like the worlds we came from). Very disappointed in him on the bench so far, including his lying to the Senate at his confirmation hearings on Roe.

i'm thinking better qualifed than Gorsuch was a consideration.

But it can get worse: …..‘tis the season!

Kincaid had 6 catches for over 100 yards in that game. I know. And if Kincaid had 8 or 9 catches instead of trying so hard to get Coleman involved, they likely win that game.

The man is up late each night tweeting away on truth social. His sleep I am guessing is erratic which does not help keeping awake. Maybe go to sleep and put down your danged phone/ tablet/ whatever. just saying. It makes sense and would explain at least part of it a guy who falls asleep in the daytime I think as we age we need naps though. Is that a sin? NO . Just don't pretend you are some invincible person He's not superman. and I'll be nice and leave it at that When he sleeps he cant lie and blather and troll as he LOVES to do. Sleep more naranja.

“To say Jayden Daniels will never be Mahomes, when Daniels’ projectory and numbers already look like this and he is in the running for MVP only FIRST season is absolutely asinine. Speaking of Goat you're making Mahomes sound like the GOAT and he isn't. One of the best quarterbacks of his generation, and an elite QB? Absolutely. But can he be lapped by Daniels if Daniels’ projectory continues to rise, ABSOLUTELY. How long did it take Mahomes to look they way he did? I'm pretty sure his 2nd year maybe 3rd. This is Jayden Daniels 1ST season.” -Commanders fans last year

As I said in the other thread, I thought it was an honest take. The guys injuries and rehab hours have to take a toll. I don't imagine it always feels like fun even if that's the perception people have because of the money/fame.

This place implodes when someone, anyone looks like they might be injured.

Had a few great nights drinking iron city. good memories.

They had a knack for making everything hard. I remember them pouring baby oil all over the Twister board to make it more challenging.