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Jags have a good defense. They are doing more than Lawrence. To be honest, Lawrence has been a dissapointment.

What is the "Bills Culture" anyways? I think its Josh Allen doing Josh Allen things with some help from James Cook. But this supposed process and culture would be nothing without #17. He is our "culture". McDermott got the Bills out of playoff hell in 2017. Since then its been all #17.

We were spoiled with Hyde, Poyer, White and Johnson. Even then some here complained.

more like QBs don't go to ownership demanding their coach gets fired very often

I don’t necessarily have a problem with it - but it’s called all the time and it feels like against us at least once a game. That looked like Chiefs style coverage they operate knowing they can’t call it all game - especially against the perceived inferior WRs vs Superior CB How many times was Elam called for that?

All this PS talk. The issue is we need more than PS players right now. We need starters and actual contributors.

Then Allen is content with the way things are. He did extend here as well

Goergiev hit waivers today.

Fair enough. I think that there’s truth there and probably with Tre too. I guess my point is, even if he will “only come back for the Bills” -pass. He’s just not good enough anymore. I’d rather take a chance on someone else.

I thought Rex & his Bro went over the Falls, like the blowhard buffoons they are!

So much short term memory or lack of real memory. The Bills had a ton of ~8-8 seasons with guys like Edwards, Losman, Taylor, an old Bledsoe, Orton, etc. You cant tell me Allen replacing any of those QB's does not drastically change things. Additionally many of those years were in a much tougher AFC east with 6 tough games compared to the past few years in the division. I would expect a capable HC to inherit this team with Josh Allen and achieve at least similar results. The Bills win more games from either playing crappy teams or Josh Allen balling out than coaching or game plan genius.

never going to happen

I’m not arguing about anything either. I just don’t think Trevor Lawrence is that good of a quarterback. I doubt he’ll be in the MVP conversation at the end of the year because he’s not consistent at all

So why is it you cant keep a ball if it flys into the stands? Its not like baseball where it happens multiple times a game. The NFL that hard up?

I agree. Lots of hand wringing going on for the beginning of the season with new WRs and a D that will have some new faces soon. Only thing I would think of doing is getting a DB by trade deadline.

Nah that's just basic hand fighting. That's never getting called nor should it be. DBs are allowed to place their hand on their man in coverage as long as they not forcibly restricting their movement. If DBs weren't allowed to do that they wouldn't be able to orient themselves in coverage and you might as well just eliminate pass defense at that point.

Bugs

Hawes, yes. Knox, no. Paying close to $10m a year to have a blocking tight end that occasionally catches passes is basically what hawes has been doing for 900k. Knox has 6 receptions. Hawes has 4.

Geesh - I thought we were finally done with him. He made Milano look reliable and available.

My favorite part of this play is Gonzalez with his hands all over Keon holding up the route while Josh is still in the pocket going thru progressions. WE NEVER DRAW ILLEGAL USE OF HANDS. EVER

Their secondary reminded me of how our secondary used to look when Leslie Frazier was here. They were synchronized, getting appropriate depth on their drops, passing guys off well, and when it came time to plaster they plastered. Ours used to look like that until Frazier left and since then it's never looked the same. Vrabel is an excellent coach and it looks like they found their QB too. They need to add more legit pass catchers and more edge pass rush to be real championship contenders but they are probably one offseason away from being a real threat for the division, if they're not already there now.

Probably has something to do with the increasing number of indoor stadiums as well. Would be interesting to see a split of FG% from 50+ and/or 60+ yards in the different stadium types.

Again you’re arguing with something I never said. He’s on a team with a record tied for the best in the league. They’re coming off games where they outplayed the Chiefs and 49ers and passed the eye test easily. I said he’ll make an appearance on the MVP odds board. That’s it. That’s all I said. QBs on winning teams are the guys on those lists. Guys like Jackson will disappear from tgat list, even if temporarily. Did I ever say he’s better than Jackson? No. I said he will appear on the MVP odds board.

Maybe Tucker will spot Ray Epps in the crowd at Utah Valley University. Just admit that you loved Tucker until he went in too deep on the conspiracy theories for your taste.

The ONLY way this happens is if Josh goes directly to Pegula and says "We'll never win a championship win the current regime." In the meantime, we all get to enjoy Marvin Lewis 2.0.