MattM Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Players in Buffalo are going to help Mike Vick with his appeal???? Look, if you think he's going to appeal this decision, this incredible gift from God(ell), your are simply insane. Actually, many sources I've seen this afternoon link him to the Pats* as his most likely landing spot. Vick himself has said he's close to signing with someone. If it is indeed the Pats*, then that does quite clearly explain his "incredible gift from God(ell)" you wrote about--nothing like having friends in the League offices, huh? BTW, I called this one (Vick to Pats*) about a week ago, as soon as I saw he only got 4 games...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Nah, Hitler just made a mistake. They should have given him a second chance. Like Hinkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Actually, I had issue with your suggestion that even if he was planning an appeal, he would be heading to Buffalo for any reason connected to this, or that this would be "logical". But, keeping in mind that you could "care less", your even allowing a "big if" regarding an appeal reveals that you don't understand the huge break Vick got and the precariuos position he remains in. Put anther way (again), he will never appeal this and there is absolutely no "logical" reason to allow for even the remote possibility that he would. My smart arss reply was uncalled for and you have my apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Wasn't his mistake was that he got caught? He didn't know what his friends were doing. He just let them borrow Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 He got his job back?I didn't realize he was playing QB for the Falcons this year. oh c'mon! we're going to argue over semantics, here? Being reinstated in the NFL is him being indemnified by the league. He is being given back the opportunity to compete, and win a position on a squad. When a player is drafted, does he automatically win a spot on a team? Could anyone 'normal' Joe, under these same circumstances, be even hired back as janitor had he been partner or something of that nature? None of us would even make it in the door and if attempted, would be escorted out by the police. He's a convicted felon. The only reason he is getting another shot is because of the (potential) money it can bring the NFL. Is that fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 somehow I could see him in a Dolphins jersey. If that didn't happen, the Raiders would be a guess. But now that Favre has decided that he is not playing again...would Minnesota try him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 somehow I could see him in a Dolphins jersey. If that didn't happen, the Raiders would be a guess. But now that Favre has decided that he is not playing again...would Minnesota try him out? Why? they already have their "Wildcat" QB in Patrick White I doubt anyone takes a serious run at Vick this season unless they are San Fran or someone who has a serious injury in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 oh c'mon! we're going to argue over semantics, here? Being reinstated in the NFL is him being indemnified by the league. He is being given back the opportunity to compete, and win a position on a squad. When a player is drafted, does he automatically win a spot on a team? Could anyone 'normal' Joe, under these same circumstances, be even hired back as janitor had he been partner or something of that nature? None of us would even make it in the door and if attempted, would be escorted out by the police. He's a convicted felon. The only reason he is getting another shot is because of the (potential) money it can bring the NFL. Is that fair? I don't see it as semantics. Real world example: I'm a waiter for JoeMama's Restaurant. Turns out I fight dogs on the side and am arrested for it. Naturally I lose my job at JoeMama's while I'm in lock down. Are you saying that when I get out that I can't or shouldn't be able to go wait tables at Granny's Diner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I don't see it as semantics. Real world example:I'm a waiter for JoeMama's Restaurant. Turns out I fight dogs on the side and am arrested for it. Naturally I lose my job at JoeMama's while I'm in lock down. Are you saying that when I get out that I can't or shouldn't be able to go wait tables at Granny's Diner? You're not in the national spotlight or viewed as an idol at the corner diner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 You're not in the national spotlight or viewed as an idol at the corner diner. It's clear you've never eaten at Granny's Diner. Sure, Granny will hire anyone (she's an ex con herself) but she makes one kick-ass meatloaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 It's clear you've never eaten at Granny's Diner. Sure, Granny will hire anyone (she's an ex con herself) but she makes one kick-ass meatloaf. Memphis Women and Fried Chicken! You're not in the national spotlight or viewed as an idol at the corner diner. So there should be different rules dependent upon ones station in life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl Patriots | Belichick praises Vick's athleticism Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:15:58 -0700 The Associated Press reports New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick praised free-agent QB Michael Vick's (Falcons) athleticism, but he would not say whether the team was interested in Vick. Belichick said, "Michael is an outstanding player, hasn't played in a couple of years. But right now, our focus is on our team and our players and trying to get the New England Patriots ready, and so that's really where my attention's been. But he's a tremendous athlete. Where exactly he is right now, I don't know." This would suck beyond all forms of sucking if the Pats pulled the trigger on Vick to add the Wildcat to their offensive repertiore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Memphis Women and Fried Chicken! So there should be different rules dependent upon ones station in life? I think professional Athletes in some sports should be held to Higher standards because they often times become role models for the younger generation. To work at a Nuclear plant the security clearances you have to pass alone will disqualify you if you have a felony record. Priests, Law Enforcement, Military, I could go on and on but the point I'm trying to make is there are different rules depending on ones station in life in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl This would suck beyond all forms of sucking if the Pats pulled the trigger on Vick to add the Wildcat to their offensive repertiore. NFL Network suggests the Pats are NOT interested in Vick, nor are the Steelers (contrary to some previous reports). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I think professional Athletes in some sports should be held to Higher standards because they often times become role models for the younger generation. To work at a Nuclear plant the security clearances you have to pass alone will disqualify you if you have a felony record. Priests, Law Enforcement, Military, I could go on and on but the point I'm trying to make is there are different rules depending on ones station in life in my opinion. Did you just compare ballplayers to cops, soldiers and priests? I couldn't agree more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I think professional Athletes in some sports should be held to Higher standards because they often times become role models for the younger generation. To work at a Nuclear plant the security clearances you have to pass alone will disqualify you if you have a felony record. Priests, Law Enforcement, Military, I could go on and on but the point I'm trying to make is there are different rules depending on ones station in life in my opinion. And professional athletes are entertainers. Do you think entertainers should be held to a very high standard of conduct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Did you just compare ballplayers to cops, soldiers and priests? I couldn't agree more! I suppose in a " You may not get your job back way" I think I did . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Memphis Women and Fried Chicken! So there should be different rules dependent upon ones station in life? No, but if you get convicted of a felony and lie to your boss, don't expect your job to be waiting for you when you get back. I worked a police officer for 4 years, if I was convicted of a felony, i'd never get another police job again....how's that compare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I separate team and organizational sports athletes from Individual Entertainers because a movie actor for instance doesn't downgrade a whole league or organization, they are judged on their individual actions. Parents can monitor what actor or show their children watch. The Football, baseball, and basketball game you take your kids to on the other hand, you expect for the most part to be good, wholesome family entertainment. Schools often require the proper grades to participate in school related sports so even at an early age a higher standard is required and is a big reason sports is important to our younger generation, it helps keep them out of trouble and on the right path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Mike Singletary could do a good job deflecting the media, but my opinion is based on the man not the color of his skin. Can Singletary relate, yes he can , but he's a football coach not a shrink and its not up to him to have to take Michael Vick by the hand and protect him from the nasty piranha we call the media. Michael Vick is a man who can stand up for himself and I think he's perfectly content to take any opportunity he can to start in the NFL regardless if the head coach is white or black and to suggest otherwise is ludicrous. ( something a moron might suggest) Left wing animal rights groups and the like are heading Vick's way. Is it moronic to think an agressive visible minority head coach can be a better shield from these left wing groups? It's simple politics man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Left wing animal rights groups and the like are heading Vick's way. Is it moronic to think an agressive visible minority head coach can be a better shield from these left wing groups? It's simple politics man. Some folks choose to use their minority standings as a motivation, others as a crutch or leverage to meet their agenda. Its moronic in my opinion to constantly use the race card instead of facing your problems head on. Race has nothing to do with Michael Vicks situation and has nothing to do with the solution to his problem which is repairing his image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 PFT is reporting that rumors of Vick to the Pats are picking up steam: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...-pick-up-steam/ As if I didn't hate them enough already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 PFT is reporting that rumors of Vick to the Pats are picking up steam: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...-pick-up-steam/ As if I didn't hate them enough already... He'll go there, play willingly as a situational guy, score 10 TDs (6 against the Bills) and will laugh all the way to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I hope he does sign with the Cheatriettes*. I expect the guy's pretty well washed-up as an NFL QB - wasn't very good to begin with, is now 30 years old, and hasn't played a down in over two years. It'll be a PR disaster out there in The Peoples' Republic Of Massachusetts. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Mucho bad karma for the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrygnome Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Like i posted in the other thread, $20 says if he signs with the pats the "conditional reinstatement" (which could be anywhere from 0-6 games) will have him playing in the opener while Marshawn is out 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Mucho bad karma for the Patriots. But the Patriots are already pure evil so it's actually more good karma....from Satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 But the Patriots are already pure evil so it's actually more good karma....from Satan. Wouldn't that mean that David Tyree was Jesus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 He'll go there, play willingly as a situational guy, score 10 TDs (6 against the Bills) and will laugh all the way to the bank. 6? What about the next game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Wouldn't that mean that David Tyree was Jesus? The Second Coming, in the flesh. It'll be a PR disaster out there in The Peoples' Republic Of Massachusetts. I doubt it. The Pats* obsessed M!@#$s will ban PETA from the state before they let them sully the image of their beloved cheaters. After all, no one does hypocrisy like left wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Wouldn't that mean that David Tyree was Jesus? Good point. Also, was losing Brady for a season not "bad karma". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Good point. Also, was losing Brady for a season not "bad karma". Bernard Pollard is the Holy Ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I called this over a week ago, as soon as I saw the light suspension I figured he'd go to New England*--Goodell knew who had an interest in him and did his part to continue to serve his Master..... Funny, ain't it, that Marshawn gets 3 games for two minor incidents (one of which effectively in the eyes of the law at least turned out to be a traffic ticket), while Vick gets 4 games for a major felony that he did two years jail time for. About par for the course..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I called this over a week ago, as soon as I saw the light suspension I figured he'd go to New England*--Goodell knew who had an interest in him and did his part to continue to serve his Master..... Funny, ain't it, that Marshawn gets 3 games for two minor incidents (one of which effectively in the eyes of the law at least turned out to be a traffic ticket), while Vick gets 4 games for a major felony that he did two years jail time for. About par for the course..... Speaking of Marshawn, I should have added that I knew who our opening day opponent would be as soon as I heard Lynch was getting suspended--will wonders never cease, but the League favoritism shown to that team is just getting all too predictable (and laughable)...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Speaking of Marshawn, I should have added that I knew who our opening day opponent would be as soon as I heard Lynch was getting suspended--will wonders never cease, but the League favoritism shown to that team is just getting all too predictable (and laughable)...... Vick's suspension is no less than 5 games. Lynch only plays the pats once a year anyway (and his only two games against them he totaled 46 and 78 yards). How did the league let the Giants win the SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Vick's suspension is no less than 5 games. Lynch only plays the pats once a year anyway (and his only two games against them he totaled 46 and 78 yards). How did the league let the Giants win the SB? I'm with angry gnome. If you guys sign vick, his suspension will be magically reduced to "time served" and he'll be on the field in the monday night opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Vick's suspension is no less than 5 games. Lynch only plays the pats once a year anyway (and his only two games against them he totaled 46 and 78 yards). How did the league let the Giants win the SB? Okay, so he gets two more games than Lynch, not just one more--still incredibly light considering the scope of the relevant offense versus what Lynch got for his. This is all, of course, premised on believing that he should serve his NFL and jail punishments consecutively and not concurrently (which is admittedly debateable). Don't get me wrong here--I think Vick deserves to be reinstated, as he's paid his debt. That I'm not arguing with. I'm just arguing about the lightness of the treatment he got from the League and linking it to who is now likely to be signing him, something that I suspect League insiders had a suspicion (or possibly even actual knowledge of) when they made the suspension call on him. That said, the team that signs him also needs to admit that they're signing someone who did something very bad and should be prepared to take some heat for it. In that regard, if the Pats* do indeed sign him, don't get me started on the hypocrisy of Kraft and his media sycophants who make them out to be the model franchise, both in execution and morally. I think the latter may go by the boards on this one in most folks' eyes (those few fans not already sickened by Spygate, etc. that is), but watch certain members of the media spin this as somehow a great and wondrous thing New England* is doing for this poor man. Thanks for brining up the SB--my what a glorious game that was. Think I'll watch it again tonight. You may be able to thank Tomase for that one, actually, since Spygate seemed to cast a pall on the normal League forces that weekend...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Now PFT says any rumors that Vick was in Boston are bunko, as he was in Virginia today, in court: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...to-pats-rumors/ Serves me right for believing anything from Florio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Now PFT says any rumors that Vick was in Boston are bunko, as he was in Virginia today, in court: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...to-pats-rumors/ Serves me right for believing anything from Florio. Florio = Skooby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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