Dawgg Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Not Jumping the Gun in Free Agency First and foremost, I like the fact that the "inner ciricle" has decided to take its time. We've become all too accustomed to the 12:01AM signing at the start of the free agency period and it hasn't done the team any favors over the past few years. Why bid against yourself? This is why the Bills to overpay for talent like Dockery. There is something to be said about taking your time, allowing the market to develop and seeing where things go. It seems like Brandon has decided to employ that strategy this time around. Waiting will allow the Bills to find some bargains and maybe even take a few calculated risks. Letting Greer Walk They placed a value on Greer at 4 yrs $20M so that he has an option to stick around in Buffalo... but it seems like the front office has made a conscious decision to let Greer walk, unless, for some unforeseen reason, he garners no interest on the open market. While Greer vastly outplayed his status as an undrafted free agent, he simply doesn't have the coverage skills of Terrance McGee. Most posters seem to have an inflated perception of his skills... thankfully, the front office recognizes that McGee is more valuable to this team. He hustles on every play, he's a sure tackler, and his abilities on Special Teams speaks for themselves. Has he been beat? Every corner has! But this team needs more Terrance McGees, not fewer of them. Cutting Dockery The guy simply underperformed. The Bills wasted $20+ million on him, but it's better to admit a mistake and move on than to continue with a failed experiment. Making an offer to Jason Peters If they wanted to move on from Jason Peters, last year was the year... they could have drafted Ryan Clady for added leverage and sent Peters out of town. But this team can't afford to F**k around with the LT position now, particularly with a young QB. Pay the guy and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I agree with everything except for free agency...... We knew we were going to need to overpay in free agency to fill some crucial postitions and should have a couple of guys targeted......paid them...overpaid them if necessary and then moved on to the draft.... You know who looks like they did that? THE JETS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPearl2 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Is free agency over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Yeah but I don't like seeing our divisional counterparts, who we couldn't beat even once last year, load up on talent. Pats: Taylor Jets: Scott Fins: Wilson, Crowder. We need to make a splash and close the gap. And we do that we signing Michael Boley and maybe Laverneus Coles too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Not Jumping the Gun in Free AgencyFirst and foremost, I like the fact that the "inner ciricle" has decided to take its time. We've become all too accustomed to the 12:01AM signing at the start of the free agency period and it hasn't done the team any favors over the past few years. Why bid against yourself? This is why the Bills to overpay for talent like Dockery. There is something to be said about taking your time, allowing the market to develop and seeing where things go. It seems like Brandon has decided to employ that strategy this time around. Waiting will allow the Bills to find some bargains and maybe even take a few calculated risks. Letting Greer Walk They placed a value on Greer at 4 yrs $20M so that he has an option to stick around in Buffalo... but it seems like the front office has made a conscious decision to let Greer walk, unless, for some unforeseen reason, he garners no interest on the open market. While Greer vastly outplayed his status as an undrafted free agent, he simply doesn't have the coverage skills of Terrance McGee. Most posters seem to have an inflated perception of his skills... thankfully, the front office recognizes that McGee is more valuable to this team. He hustles on every play, he's a sure tackler, and his abilities on Special Teams speaks for themselves. Has he been beat? Every corner has! But this team needs more Terrance McGees, not fewer of them. Cutting Dockery The guy simply underperformed. The Bills wasted $20+ million on him, but it's better to admit a mistake and move on than to continue with a failed experiment. Making an offer to Jason Peters If they wanted to move on from Jason Peters, last year was the year... they could have drafted Ryan Clady for added leverage and sent Peters out of town. But this team can't afford to F**k around with the LT position now, particularly with a young QB. Pay the guy and move on. I like all of your points. We were never going to compete with the Jets and the Skins for the big names. I would love to see the Bills cut or restructure both Kelsey and Schobel. My bet is that the Bills won't do this until after all of the big names are gone so they have an excuse for not spending on the big time FA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I agree with everything except for free agency...... We knew we were going to need to overpay in free agency to fill some crucial postitions and should have a couple of guys targeted......paid them...overpaid them if necessary and then moved on to the draft.... You know who looks like they did that? THE JETS Please tell me when any team has underpaid in free agency. Do you feel the Redskins overpaid for Haynesworth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Letting Greer walk is a mistake...and he is better then Mcgee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 I like all of your points. We were never going to compete with the Jets and the Skins for the big names. I would love to see the Bills cut or restructure both Kelsey and Schobel. My bet is that the Bills won't do this until after all of the big names are gone so they have an excuse for not spending on the big time FA's. Unless they have a clear plan for replenishing the DE position, they should probably stay put. Cutting one of them also telegraphs to the league that they will be picking a DE first in the draft. If they acquire enough DE talent, it wouldn't surprise me to see them cut Kelsay during training camp.... though I suspect Kelsay has compromising photos of Russ Brandon and thus will remain on the roster this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Not Jumping the Gun in Free AgencyFirst and foremost, I like the fact that the "inner ciricle" has decided to take its time. We've become all too accustomed to the 12:01AM signing at the start of the free agency period and it hasn't done the team any favors over the past few years. Why bid against yourself? This is why the Bills to overpay for talent like Dockery. There is something to be said about taking your time, allowing the market to develop and seeing where things go. It seems like Brandon has decided to employ that strategy this time around. Waiting will allow the Bills to find some bargains and maybe even take a few calculated risks. Letting Greer Walk They placed a value on Greer at 4 yrs $20M so that he has an option to stick around in Buffalo... but it seems like the front office has made a conscious decision to let Greer walk, unless, for some unforeseen reason, he garners no interest on the open market. While Greer vastly outplayed his status as an undrafted free agent, he simply doesn't have the coverage skills of Terrance McGee. Most posters seem to have an inflated perception of his skills... thankfully, the front office recognizes that McGee is more valuable to this team. He hustles on every play, he's a sure tackler, and his abilities on Special Teams speaks for themselves. Has he been beat? Every corner has! But this team needs more Terrance McGees, not fewer of them. Cutting Dockery The guy simply underperformed. The Bills wasted $20+ million on him, but it's better to admit a mistake and move on than to continue with a failed experiment. Making an offer to Jason Peters If they wanted to move on from Jason Peters, last year was the year... they could have drafted Ryan Clady for added leverage and sent Peters out of town. But this team can't afford to F**k around with the LT position now, particularly with a young QB. Pay the guy and move on. Yeah, they are chugging along at their usual 7-9 pace. Some enjoy these 7-9 seasons and think we are about to make a leap forward. Others look at these 7-9 seasons as the ceiling, and with such an inept management team in place making the decisions, we are about to drop through the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Please tell me when any team has underpaid in free agency. Do you feel the Redskins overpaid for Haynesworth? Overpaid meaning paying more then what another team is offering even if it is just by a little bit...... Now the skins? Well what they do is stupid every year and you cant biuld a team just on free agency...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 After last Sunday's offer to Greer, wasn't a 2nd offer supposed to happen sometime this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 only a matter of time before someone gave this team a pat on the back for doing absolutely nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 only a matter of time before someone gave this team a pat on the back for doing absolutely nothing Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha You got it . Lots of rose colored glasses out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Just another swift kick in the nuts to us Bills fans by the front office. Expect this time jackoffs are patting them on the back for it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 Just another swift kick in the nuts to us Bills fans by the front office. Expect this time jackoffs are patting them on the back for it...... And you were probably one of the jackoffs that was celebrating when the Bills made a "splash" by brining in Langston Walker, huh? Or Derrick Dockery? How about when the Bills opened the vault for Chris Kelsay? Or when they made a splash in the draft and traded up for John McCargo. I bet you felt reaaaal good about your team then didn't ya? There's nothing wrong with standing pat on the first day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Letting Greer walk is a mistake...and he is better then Mcgee... He hasn't signed anywhere yet. It doesn't mean he's definitely not coming back. Another team may not offer enough for him to want to leave. Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha You got it . Lots of rose colored glasses out there. You and I have absolutely no control over the FO moves. So I'll keep wearing my rose colored glasses because I'm a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Overpaid meaning paying more then what another team is offering even if it is just by a little bit...... Now the skins? Well what they do is stupid every year and you cant biuld a team just on free agency...... We can agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 only a matter of time before someone gave this team a pat on the back for doing absolutely nothing LMFAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 And you were probably one of the jackoffs that was celebrating when the Bills made a "splash" by brining in Langston Walker, huh? Or Derrick Dockery? How about when the Bills opened the vault for Chris Kelsay? Or when they made a splash in the draft and traded up for John McCargo. I bet you felt reaaaal good about your team then didn't ya? There's nothing wrong with standing pat on the first day. Dockery - I was totally wrong on this one....he was supposed to be a running game mauling guard. Langston Walker - I still think he is playing pretty well for us......he did pretty well in limited time at LT too Kelsay - Never did understand that contract when him and Denny are virtual clones of each other McCargo - You just can test a players heart at the combine.....too bad there is not a test for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Letting Greer walk is a mistake...and he is better then Mcgee... please back up your opinion with some facts as to why you think these silly things? why is it a mistake to let him walk when we have mcgee, mckelvin, youboty and corner? and... exactly how and why is greer better than mcgee? please elaborate...because you make zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Not Jumping the Gun in Free AgencyFirst and foremost, I like the fact that the "inner ciricle" has decided to take its time. We've become all too accustomed to the 12:01AM signing at the start of the free agency period and it hasn't done the team any favors over the past few years. Why bid against yourself? This is why the Bills to overpay for talent like Dockery. There is something to be said about taking your time, allowing the market to develop and seeing where things go. It seems like Brandon has decided to employ that strategy this time around. Waiting will allow the Bills to find some bargains and maybe even take a few calculated risks. Letting Greer Walk They placed a value on Greer at 4 yrs $20M so that he has an option to stick around in Buffalo... but it seems like the front office has made a conscious decision to let Greer walk, unless, for some unforeseen reason, he garners no interest on the open market. While Greer vastly outplayed his status as an undrafted free agent, he simply doesn't have the coverage skills of Terrance McGee. Most posters seem to have an inflated perception of his skills... thankfully, the front office recognizes that McGee is more valuable to this team. He hustles on every play, he's a sure tackler, and his abilities on Special Teams speaks for themselves. Has he been beat? Every corner has! But this team needs more Terrance McGees, not fewer of them. Cutting Dockery The guy simply underperformed. The Bills wasted $20+ million on him, but it's better to admit a mistake and move on than to continue with a failed experiment. Making an offer to Jason Peters If they wanted to move on from Jason Peters, last year was the year... they could have drafted Ryan Clady for added leverage and sent Peters out of town. But this team can't afford to F**k around with the LT position now, particularly with a young QB. Pay the guy and move on. As others have already said here, I think the FO should have had a couple FAs targeted and went after them hard and fast. It looks now that we may just end up with second tier/depth type FAs,and this team needs better than that in a few spots. Greer should only be allowed to walk after a real effort was made to keep him,he's a valuable player. Neither one of us know what went on in negotiations so if the attempt was made and he's just TOO expensive,so be it. Cutting Dockery was a mistake,IMO. He was overpaid but it just creates another gaping hole to fill. Peters is a good player who,IMO,has questionable desire. If he does get his extension I hope he lives up to it and we don't see ourselves in the same situation with him all over again in a year or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Not Jumping the Gun in Free AgencyFirst and foremost, I like the fact that the "inner ciricle" has decided to take its time. We've become all too accustomed to the 12:01AM signing at the start of the free agency period and it hasn't done the team any favors over the past few years. Why bid against yourself? This is why the Bills to overpay for talent like Dockery. There is something to be said about taking your time, allowing the market to develop and seeing where things go. It seems like Brandon has decided to employ that strategy this time around. Waiting will allow the Bills to find some bargains and maybe even take a few calculated risks. Letting Greer Walk They placed a value on Greer at 4 yrs $20M so that he has an option to stick around in Buffalo... but it seems like the front office has made a conscious decision to let Greer walk, unless, for some unforeseen reason, he garners no interest on the open market. While Greer vastly outplayed his status as an undrafted free agent, he simply doesn't have the coverage skills of Terrance McGee. Most posters seem to have an inflated perception of his skills... thankfully, the front office recognizes that McGee is more valuable to this team. He hustles on every play, he's a sure tackler, and his abilities on Special Teams speaks for themselves. Has he been beat? Every corner has! But this team needs more Terrance McGees, not fewer of them. Cutting Dockery The guy simply underperformed. The Bills wasted $20+ million on him, but it's better to admit a mistake and move on than to continue with a failed experiment. Making an offer to Jason Peters If they wanted to move on from Jason Peters, last year was the year... they could have drafted Ryan Clady for added leverage and sent Peters out of town. But this team can't afford to F**k around with the LT position now, particularly with a young QB. Pay the guy and move on. Great post, I agree 100% with each and every one of your points... especially with letting Greer walk and not overpaying him 2 years after letting Nate leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Not Jumping the Gun in Free AgencyFirst and foremost, I like the fact that the "inner ciricle" has decided to take its time. We've become all too accustomed to the 12:01AM signing at the start of the free agency period and it hasn't done the team any favors over the past few years. Why bid against yourself? This is why the Bills to overpay for talent like Dockery. There is something to be said about taking your time, allowing the market to develop and seeing where things go. It seems like Brandon has decided to employ that strategy this time around. Waiting will allow the Bills to find some bargains and maybe even take a few calculated risks. Letting Greer Walk They placed a value on Greer at 4 yrs $20M so that he has an option to stick around in Buffalo... but it seems like the front office has made a conscious decision to let Greer walk, unless, for some unforeseen reason, he garners no interest on the open market. While Greer vastly outplayed his status as an undrafted free agent, he simply doesn't have the coverage skills of Terrance McGee. Most posters seem to have an inflated perception of his skills... thankfully, the front office recognizes that McGee is more valuable to this team. He hustles on every play, he's a sure tackler, and his abilities on Special Teams speaks for themselves. Has he been beat? Every corner has! But this team needs more Terrance McGees, not fewer of them. Cutting Dockery The guy simply underperformed. The Bills wasted $20+ million on him, but it's better to admit a mistake and move on than to continue with a failed experiment. Making an offer to Jason Peters If they wanted to move on from Jason Peters, last year was the year... they could have drafted Ryan Clady for added leverage and sent Peters out of town. But this team can't afford to F**k around with the LT position now, particularly with a young QB. Pay the guy and move on. Well said Dawgg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Not Jumping the Gun in Free AgencyFirst and foremost, I like the fact that the "inner ciricle" has decided to take its time. We've become all too accustomed to the 12:01AM signing at the start of the free agency period and it hasn't done the team any favors over the past few years. Why bid against yourself? This is why the Bills to overpay for talent like Dockery. There is something to be said about taking your time, allowing the market to develop and seeing where things go. It seems like Brandon has decided to employ that strategy this time around. Waiting will allow the Bills to find some bargains and maybe even take a few calculated risks. Letting Greer Walk They placed a value on Greer at 4 yrs $20M so that he has an option to stick around in Buffalo... but it seems like the front office has made a conscious decision to let Greer walk, unless, for some unforeseen reason, he garners no interest on the open market. While Greer vastly outplayed his status as an undrafted free agent, he simply doesn't have the coverage skills of Terrance McGee. Most posters seem to have an inflated perception of his skills... thankfully, the front office recognizes that McGee is more valuable to this team. He hustles on every play, he's a sure tackler, and his abilities on Special Teams speaks for themselves. Has he been beat? Every corner has! But this team needs more Terrance McGees, not fewer of them. Cutting Dockery The guy simply underperformed. The Bills wasted $20+ million on him, but it's better to admit a mistake and move on than to continue with a failed experiment. Making an offer to Jason Peters If they wanted to move on from Jason Peters, last year was the year... they could have drafted Ryan Clady for added leverage and sent Peters out of town. But this team can't afford to F**k around with the LT position now, particularly with a young QB. Pay the guy and move on. Mark this date: 2/27/09 - Ramius agrees with Dawgg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Dockery - I was totally wrong on this one....he was supposed to be a running game mauling guard.Langston Walker - I still think he is playing pretty well for us......he did pretty well in limited time at LT too Kelsay - Never did understand that contract when him and Denny are virtual clones of each other McCargo - You just can test a players heart at the combine.....too bad there is not a test for that I think you meant to say "you just can't test a player's heart at the combine".....correct ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 And you were probably one of the jackoffs that was celebrating when the Bills made a "splash" by brining in Langston Walker, huh? Or Derrick Dockery? How about when the Bills opened the vault for Chris Kelsay? Or when they made a splash in the draft and traded up for John McCargo. I bet you felt reaaaal good about your team then didn't ya? There's nothing wrong with standing pat on the first day. No he's the a**h*** who starts threads about Coles signing and then sheepishly admits he's not funny. Idiots abound. Great thread Dawgg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 No he's the a**h*** who starts threads about Coles signing and then sheepishly admits he's not funny. Idiots abound. Great thread Dawgg. It feels weird to compliment the front office this time of year doesn't it? I'm still a bit nervous about how they'll use the draft picks. But for a change, showing some restraint was the right course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 It feels weird to compliment the front office this time of year doesn't it? I'm still a bit nervous about how they'll use the draft picks. But for a change, showing some restraint was the right course of action. I think beyond the big names, the economy is going to have an effect on those vaunted tier 2 FA's. Teams want to win, but there are some strange things happening which may cause them to re-think spending wildly. Frankly, that's not a bad idea. As much as I want them to sign someone, makes choices which aren't knee jerk, but for the long term. Maybe Russ learned a lesson from Marv/Dick on how not to handle UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 i am glad the is one positive, well thought out thread among all this depressing garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I think beyond the big names, the economy is going to have an effect on those vaunted tier 2 FA's. Teams want to win, but there are some strange things happening which may cause them to re-think spending wildly. Frankly, that's not a bad idea. As much as I want them to sign someone, makes choices which aren't knee jerk, but for the long term. Maybe Russ learned a lesson from Marv/Dick on how not to handle UFA. you have a valid point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Is free agency over? Yup Now they are DOOMED!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I agree with everything except for free agency...... We knew we were going to need to overpay in free agency to fill some crucial postitions and should have a couple of guys targeted......paid them...overpaid them if necessary and then moved on to the draft.... You know who looks like they did that? THE JETS They did the same thing last year and it didn't get them that much further ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 And then there is this... An off season by the line in 2008 and a big salary made Dockery a salary cap casualty Thursday. But strange things happened. The Bills didn't place Dockery on the waiver wire, and there had been interest by the Detroit Lions in acquiring him in a trade. Dockery flew to Detroit Friday for a visit and a physical. The Bills didn't get the paperwork in on a trade, so he was officially released Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 The Bills are right where they want to be in the FA mix. And, it aint good! They didn't want to spend big $$ and that was going to happen right away...so now they'll be content with settling for 2nd and 3rd rate guys on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Not Jumping the Gun in Free Agency ... Good post. I don't agree with all of it, but it is good to see you can contribute without always finding a negative in everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Good post. I don't agree with all of it, but it is good to see you can contribute without always finding a negative in everything. Dean, in all seriousness, what's there to be positive about after nine straight non-playoff seasons, the release of the biggest FA signing, a game sold to Toronto for five years, the star RB charged with 3 misdemeanors, holes at C, TE, OLB, DE, WR, LG, no GM, and the retention of one of the worst head coaches in the league? Negative, how can some of us not be? There's optimism, and then there's its distant cousin blind optimism. I can't speak for Dawgg, but there hasn't been a lot to hang your hat on in the last decade. I don't want the Bills wasting money, but until I see results on the field, it's hard to be optimistic about a franchise with a 60-84 record in the preceding 9 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 While I agree that there needs to be some restraint, they should have had their guys identified and be ready to go. All we have is a list of a few people coming in...Our OL sucked, again, last season but yet we only have 3 players under contract. We have plenty of holes to fill, but yet...nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 You guys accusing Dawgg of donning the rose-colored glasses are just a wee bit off the mark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Dean, in all seriousness, what's there to be positive about after nine straight non-playoff seasons, the release of the biggest FA signing, a game sold to Toronto for five years, the star RB charged with 3 misdemeanors, holes at C, TE, OLB, DE, WR, LG, no GM, and the retention of one of the worst head coaches in the league? Negative, how can some of us not be? There's optimism, and then there's its distant cousin blind optimism. I can't speak for Dawgg, but there hasn't been a lot to hang your hat on in the last decade. I don't want the Bills wasting money, but until I see results on the field, it's hard to be optimistic about a franchise with a 60-84 record in the preceding 9 seasons. I would counter that there is informed criticism, and then there is mindless bashing. If you can't separate the negatives, from the positives...or even neutral aspects, then your analysis and opinion, are meaningless, IMO. When I read your posts, I can't believe the Bills won ANY games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 You guys accusing Dawgg of donning the rose-colored glasses are just a wee bit off the mark... He only puts those on when he's talking about the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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